Yeah seems about right for this project. I really wanted this to be a serious browser, but nothing about this dude is serious.

Also I know he backed this statement up with much better testing but these AI brainrot things people say kill me: "I ran multiple passes of adversarial review, asking different models to analyze the code for mistakes and bad patterns."

I was enthusiastic about LadyBird until I learnt that the guy leading the project i s a white supremacist, via pivot-to-ai.

Now I hope either someone else takes it over, or that it crashes and burns.

Sloppybird

Andreas Kling's ladybird? Don't wanna touch that with a 10ft pole.

https://hyperborea.org/reviews/software/ladybird-inclusivity/

Rest in peace to this browser.

I would of course love to see ladybird succeed, but it has seemed problematic from the start in my opinion. Servo seems much more serious.

I also like that Servo is developing an engine, not a browser as such. Seems like a good idea to keep the two separated.

Oh. Welp, if it's going to be vibe coded I'm out.

Guess I got excited about this browser for nothing.

Birdpoop browser you say? Never heard of of it.

I was enthusiastic about this project. But I am afraid these recent tangents will only reduce momentum.

The worst part is they are doing themselves a disservice by not rewriting it by hand - have they really learnt enough Rust to know how to effectively rewrite the other parts of the engine as they say? Doubtful - they'll probably just do everything through AI stuff going forward.

I've suddenly lost all interest in this browser's development. From what I've heard, LLMs are pretty bad at generating Rust code for some reason. If they used LLM to bulk convert C++ code to Rust, the quality of the code is questionable at best.

Gross

Good grief, the irrational ai kneejerk hate in this community is insane. This seems like a perfect use case - a code base with good test coverage and well defined output expectations, where a human has guided the translation and checked the results. The human in question has saved a lot of time. And still all the comments are “hurr durr slop amirite”. SMH fucking head.

@Beep@lemmus.org @technology@lemmy.world

Ah, the smell of irony by the morning! Adopting a programming language often praised by its "safety", while the entire pretension of "safety" is alchemically transmuted into a sewage and deliberately flushed up (not down) by a clanker who drinks from the cesspool with the same determination and thirst that of a Chevy Opala gurgling down entire Olympic pools worth of gasoline.

Being serious now, the foreseeable future for Web browsing is definitely depressing: Chromium needs no introduction (used to be an interesting browser until Google's mask "don't be evil" fell and straightforwardly revealed their corporate face and farce), Firefox have been "welcoming the new AI overlords" for a while, text browsers (such as Lynx) are far from feasible for a CAPTCHA(and Anubis)-driven web... now, one of the latest and fewest glimmers of hope, an alternative Web browser engine, is becoming the very monster the fight against which was promised to be the launchpad purpose ("They who fights with monsters should be careful lest they thereby become a monster"). I wouldn't be surprised if Servo were to enshittify, too. Being able to choose among the sameness is such a wonderful thing, isn't it?

I mean, I'm not the average Lemmy user who got this (understandably) deep hatred against AI, I am able to hold a nuanced view and finding quite interesting uses (especially when it comes to linguistics) for the clankers (especially the "open-weighted" ones). However, this, to shoving AI everywhere and using AI to "code for you", it's a whole different story. A software should be programmed in the way programming (as posited by Ada Lovelace) was intended to, not "vibe coded" by a fancy auto-completer who can't (yet) deal with Turing completeness, especially when it comes to a whole miniature operational system that browsers became nowadays. When coding a whole OS, AI shouldn't even be touched by a two million light-years pole, let alone by a two-feet pole.

The things people criticize are so fucking brainless these days. AI this, slop that.

Not a single one of you made fun of "let's rewrite it in Rust." You can't even elevate to the level of mildly funny parroting.

Is it a good sign for Rust code when it's described as having "a strong 'translated from C++' vibe"? Or when the developer says too much Rust might be something they "can't merge"?

I’m still gonna try it. Downvote away. 🖕fuck the Lemmy hivemind poutfest.

Every minute that passes, Gemini (not the Google one!) looks more viable, which is already a shame because as I described in lemm.ee before it went down, that itself feels like "Gopher but in the format of a brutalist buttplug".

What we need is some sort of return to HTML + CSS 1.0, or a web engine that simply ditches JS, so that development can be tackled by Individuals again.