Hmmm it appears they understand how evil all the tech companies are, harvesting data to the fullest extent. Spying, influencing, etc.
Oh they absolutely know. Zuck's Meta is on trial right now not only because Instagram creates an addiction for kids, but because it was made delibarately, on purpose. Kids addictron was the goal.
They've always known. They just don't care for the rest of humanity.
Look to the masters, the tobacco industry with additives to make it more addictive (been a while since I researched it and that's the one that popped up, but they spent 60+ years making it more addictive).
Social media speedran it with something apparently innocuous ('they trust me, stupid fucks'), and a bunch of corrupt psychologists (and marketers/advertisers also known as corrupt psychologists). Do no harm my ass, wait, that doesn't apply to psychologists, wait again, that's more like guidelines for doctors (not an actual vow in most places).
Next bill of rights / constitution needs to address this specifically, there's a reason why quacks have a special hatred (and if there were one, a special hell)...
Does musk even see any of his kids often enough to set rules?
not if his kids have any say in the matter
I can imagine he has access to crazy surveillance of them and their mothers.
"Our technology is perfectly safe and harmless for all ages!"
"So you would let your own children use it?"
"Nooo. No no no no no no. God no."
The most disturbing part is these ghouls reproduced.
You look at the ~~eugenicist~~ natalist couples who worship Elon Musk and you realize they are indeed ghouls, and they treat their children like non-sentient garbage. Hitting them during interviews in public. Imagine what they do in private.
Leave it to natalists to make extinction seem the better option.
Eat the rich
That's so much Zone of Interest.

YouTube cofounder Steve Chen said at a talk at the Stanford Graduate School of Business last year that he wouldn’t want his kids consuming only short-form content, noting that it might be better to limit kids to videos longer than 15 minutes.
I hope this is introduced at the LA trial in some form that demonstrates the why.
I should not be amazed, but I still am, at the entire lack of morality that tech entrepreneurs have post dotcom bursting.
They're subhumans with no morality or code of ethics whose sights are set on more and more wealth, spiralling them further into the depths of depravity and the cardinal sin of greed.
Greed begets more greed, but unlike gluttony and wrath, the billionaires' deterioration doesn't manifest itself physically, so they allow themselves to become evermore corrupted by it until they become a fountain of disease, rotting and decaying everything around them.
I say bullshit, these people aren't involved enough in their kids lives to even know if their "1 hour a day" or whatever rules are happening. Their kids are absolutely doing whatever the fuck they want.
That's what the paid 24/7 nanny is for.
everyone talking about "phone bad" meanwhile im reminded of how abusive parents tend to track and watch everything kids do online. Like have we forgotten all of a sudden these people are extremely linked to the child rapist to end all child rapists???
I'm extremely hesitant to hand it to Thiel, Gates and Elon, especially in anything relating to how children should be treated.
Vaguely agree with the sentiment here.
Every single person I know who had helicopter parents ended up... a bit odd... in a bad way.
This behavior seems to be very similar to NFL stars and how they never wanted their kids to play football.
Everyone involved knows how dangerous social media/football is and many of them are in positions to actually do something about it. But because it benefits them personally, they won't even rock the boat.
I love how Elon Musk was the sole fuck up in these examples
Thats because he has like 14 kids with numerous women and doesn't actually parent them.
Musk doesn't even remember his kids' names except maybe that one he named by smashing the keyboard with his fist
What about the one he used as a shield? Or are they the same?
Never get high on your own supply
And they've convinced you that it's a-okay for your kids to be using these products, in full knowledge of the harm they cause.
That should be enough evidence for the rest of the world…
I used to work at a "Big Data" company that sold browsing data to a ton of companies. One problem the dev team ran into was that the standard ad-blocking plugins that they'd install on their machines also blocked our stuff, so my support team would have to inform them of bugs.
Lots of fun stories from that job.
Wow what a surprise. I can't imagine anyone better to know how unsafe something is other than the lead architects themselves.
This isn't new. I remember fifteen years ago some Silicon Valley app engineers forbade their children from playing the games that were being developed.
It's because they're engineered to use your psychology against you. This is by design.
First of all these billionaires can afford to replace for their kids; what social media is with actual socialising that is destroyed by fear, nimbyism, and systematic destruction of third places for normal people. that's what private cities and walled off estates are for. They will continue to enjoy the fruits of socialism while selling capitalism for everybody else.
This is not a force to be triffled with or dismissed as so easy to escape from.
Well, they know why. And they know that most of the people are stupid as a stone. This is how they made their money.
Because they know their kids will have an advantage over the stupefied masses if they can keep them unmezmerizes.
Other tech CEOs, including Microsoft’s Bill Gates, Snap’s Evan Spiegel, and Tesla’s Elon Musk, have also spoken about limiting their children’s access to devices. Gates has said he did not give his children smartphones until age 14 and banned phones at the dinner table entirely. Snap CEO Evan Spiegel, in 2018, said he limits his child to the same 1.5 hours per week of screen time as Thiel.
Seems like these failures suing them & demanding government paternalism
Yet, as the trials against social media companies continue and country after country moves toward legislating what Silicon Valley’s billionaires have quietly practiced for years
don't know how to effectively limit access/use parental controls as tech CEOs claim to do.
Fucking degenerate assholes, pushing drugs knowing full well how harmful it is.
What, Musks too? He's not known to have much to do with family.
But he is known to talk out his ass
Half an hour per weekday and an hour on weekends with the switch, plus strict rules on what als can be used. No roblox.
But we flood our kids with books or comics. If they want to read a book, well make it happen
Kids are fine with it. Boredom sparks creativity.
Even when I was a kid, in the 80s and 90s, I spent plenty of time playing NES, computer and watching TV. This was of course long before social media.
I don’t see how you could possibly limit a kid to 1.5 hr screen time per week. How do we define screen time? If it’s only social media on phones or tablets, then that’s probably okay. But if you are including console, computer gaming, tv, then I don’t see how that’s even possible. (And of course now most games have an online component, so the line gets blurry there.)
It’s the shitty “social” aspect of online that is harming children, not the concept of a screen.
I have to admit, I've gone sort of retro-tech with my kids in the main. Wii over Xbox or PS5, DS-lite over Switches, OLPC over chromebook etc. Social media - ha ha, no chance :)
My eldest asked for a phone, so I gave her my old flipfone. She loves it (and I kinda want it back now, lol).
The HMD Nokia branded Barbie phones with KaiOS is what I've promised to get her when she's earned it. That's a dumbphone with some smart features...and as bonus, I can probably (with enough effort) create some apps for her directly (KaiOS is basically Firefox OS in a container, which even my dumb-ass can probably grok with some effort)
I give them access to my tablets...but the tablets have kid mode (app lock) and are hardened with firewall, pi-hole, app timers and curated content (eg: Smart-tube with ONLY the channels I select as safe being visible, no click thrus, comment section blocked etc. ABC kids. Jellyfin pointing to ONLY kids stuff etc etc). I know this is a technical solution to a behavioral problem. OTOH as much as I would LOVE to just yeet all this shit into the sun, the realistic position is kids need to know how to use tech. I even leave little breadcrumbs for my eldest to try and "hack" my systems so she can get access to "hidden" software (which, matrix-in-matrix style, I've allowed her access to. Don't give SUDO equivalent to an 8yr old...once bitten, twice shy. I could tell you a recent horror story that would curl your hair)
Anyway....it's not 1983 any more (sadly, in some ways), But I have observed that by curating content like this it FEELS like the kids are interacting with tech like we did back in the day; morning cartoons are once again morning cartoons and not a chance for MrBeast to invite my 8yr old to "comment, like and subscribe".
My eldest has ASD and I've noticed these small tweaks have had significant improvements on her behaviour / media consumption patterns (eg: she will get bored of media now and self regulate away from it...and...gasp...play).
I dunno man. I'm trying out here. Shit ain't easy. Too many plates spinning, not enough hands, and father time is a motherfucker. I'm tired, boss.
Tech lords are among the most hated people on the planet.
"Dad, why people think you're a self absordeb, pathetic, nazi snowflake???"
banned phones at the dinner table entirely
I would everyone is doing this. Sitting down to eat together once a day and talk isn't something only billionaires can afford.
Duh. You think the CEO of Kraft feeds his kids mac and cheese from a box?
There's gotta be a modern version of Fortunate son brewing somewhere with a cybertruck whizzing sound as the intro.
Why do they have kids? Inheritance Tax Now!
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