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A still from the movie Demolition Man in which some police officers prepare to confront a character played by Wesley Snipes.

Top Text: Demolition Man: A movie which depicts a horrifying dystopia...

Bottom Text:...in which food is too healthy, bidets are common, and cops literally don't know how to assault a black man.

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[-] treesquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Remember how there's also a giant second city underground that's barely scraping by, and the people running the utopian city are trying to eradicate them? Yeah, not a very bright take on the movie.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

**EDIT: The movie is 'The Invasion' (2007)

There was a sci-fi movie 20 years ago about an alien intelligence taking over world governments, replicating itself into human hosts via inoculations for a 'virus', and as the movie progresses world peace is achieved, but the protagonists fight against it over fears of losing free will.

And I'm over here like... the aliens are the bad guys?

[-] TheEEEdiot@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

That's basically the plot of Pluribus

Just started that one, Carol sucks. Enjoying it so far.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 108 points 1 day ago

Bidets?!

This guy doesn’t know about the three shells!

[-] db2@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

Apparently it's canon that you use two like chopsticks to get most of the poo and the third scrapes the rest off.

A bidet would be great compared to that.

[-] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 day ago

That’s just a fan theory, no where in the movie is that established.

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[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

psh this dude hasn't used the three shells

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

No, that’s what the poop knife is for.

[-] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Dennis Leary's character was the implied poop-knife demographic in that film IIRC 

[-] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

The idea of demolition man cannon makes me wish for a demolition man extended universe, hopefully with a crossover with Judge Dredd

gross to read, thank you

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

If the three sea shells discourse isn't a stand-in for 90s Americans' anxiety about bidets then I don't know what is.

[-] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

3 mysterious sea shells... you think 3 dry sea shells (which most people understand logistically would be impossible to clean yourself properly with) was a stand in for bidets?

I was also around when the movie came out and not a single human i interacted with imagined they were a bidet. In fact bidets were so uncommon in the US at the time that most Americans experience with them was from the movie Crocodile Dundee.

Everyone's problem with the sea shells was that you wouldn't be able to clean yourself properly when you imagine physically using them. But people in the future they imagined have extremely small and limited diets, they probably don't produce an huge amount of waste. There's only 1 fat guy in the whole movie, and you wonder how Otho from Beetlejuice got that way on taco bell protein pellets.

IF they had introduced the concept of a bidet system, it would have immediately removed the mystery from the sea shells and made them far less intimidating.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Everyone’s problem with the sea shells was that you wouldn’t be able to clean yourself properly when you imagine physically using them.

That's... not the joke. Holy shit have people over-thought the three shells. It's not supposed to make sense or have a physical utility that you can imagine. THAT IS THE JOKE.

User above was kind of right that it reflected an anxiety about change to personal habits for "environmentalism" and other things that were happening at the time like people pushing for saving water in the bathroom.

[-] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The joke is mystery, like duh, the conversations about how to use it were relevant. No human in the US had anxiety over bidets. When conversations about the sea shells were had, they involved the physical use of them specifically.

Bidets weren't in the zeitgeist. When people engage with the sea shells (the literal and exact intention of the sea shells was to wonder how you use them), they thought about how they would physically replace toilet paper. The scene literally shows you the main character generating paper to use.

Like it's crazy I even have to note this, when you hear hoofbeats in Wyoming, you don't wonder if zebra are making them.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The anxiety about bidets is leaving the bathroom with a wet spot on my ass.

[-] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

You still wipe with toilet paper, you just use far less, anyone who has a wet spot on their ass might have turned it in with their pants on. In which case the bidet isn't the problem.

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[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

Reminds me of the TTRPG Shadowrun. Sometimes its hard to sell the corporate dystopia when you're describing eating & drinking soy products because meat is prohibitively expensive and they can sell the effect of dubious cash crops like coffee and chocolate with a soy based alternative.

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

The shadowrun 5e rulebook actually allows someone to live in a small one bedroom appartment on a part time job, we are so far past what used to be considered dystopia.

[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 1 day ago

The supposed utopia is modeled after the ideal of suburban USA. That's pretty fucking dystopic. Add to that tge prohibition of kissing, sex, Rock music, etc...

I think someone didn't watch or utterly misunderstood the movie.

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Comrade, I rented that movie from a locally-owned VHS rental shop that used physical membership cards.

Sure it's a dystopia, but it's a dystopia where they solved too many problems. John Spartan gets into a high speed car crash and his car instantly fills up with safety foam and he's completely unharmed. The police force is ethnically and gender diverse. Guns are museum pieces. The cops don't know HOW to assault somebody.

Sure they've killed a large amount of choice, and the guy in charge of it all seems to be determined to secure even more power for himself because of course he's a sociopath with Mr. Rogers' speech patterns, but all told I'd much rather live in the Demolition Man future than Judge Dredd or Death Race 2000.

[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 day ago

but all told I'd much rather live in the Demolition Man future than Judge Dredd or Death Race 2000.

But all the dystopian elements is not necessarily the price for the improvements. The message of the movie (to me) was "don't get fooled by some shiny surface when the core is rotten."
And your choice is not between "bad" and "worse". We can imagine even better futures (Star Trek Federation citizenship seems to be pretty neat (if you're not trying to settle some fringe worlds at the cardassian border) for example), so we can work on these.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

the guy in charge of it all seems to be determined to secure even more power for himself because of course he’s a sociopath with Mr. Rogers’ speech patterns

If the right people don't have power do you know what happens? The wrong people get it!

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Holy shit, I had no idea Raymond Cocteau was this before he was Raymond Cocteau. That's total genius casting.

[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

but all told I’d much rather live in the Demolition Man future than Judge Dredd or Death Race 2000.

What Pluribus is.

[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Ngl, digital tantric neural sex link seems pretty fuckin' rad.

I guess they left out the part where it implants Taco Bell ads, mines your subconscious for thought crimes, and sells the data so people can have virtual sex with your likeness. Less rad.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I rather we have all our basic needs met and be advocating for rock music. It's not like the people enforcing the laws there are at all dangerous or violent, the whole world there is just a clash of ideology that apparently enough people are fine with that there's no mass marches or protests.

At risk of diving into theory here, If I had to choose between the two, I rather be in a dystopian system that preserves its dystopia with calm, naive civility rather than armed death squads.

[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

If I had to choose between the two, I rather be in a dystopian system that preserves its dystopia with calm, naive civility rather than armed death squads.

In a similar regard to OP's answer: why do you think that would be your only two choices, between "bad" and "worse"? Why not go another route that's more akin to "good"?

Also I think this is less about specific aspects of dystopia and more about "Don't let the shiny surface blind you towards the rotten core".

[-] lemonhead2@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

one thing I remember about that movie. walmart grew so big it bought everything else. all stores are now Walmart. and all restaurants are taco bell.

[-] Bahnd@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Taco Bell won the fast food wars.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Demolition Man is what Europe will look like. USA will look like The Running Man (1987 version, not the remake). It already looks like Idiocracy.

[-] 13igTyme@piefed.social 33 points 1 day ago

Well there was that entire underground society.

[-] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

But the underground society seemed to be more about finding their own version of freedom rather than outright exclusion.

In a world with super aids they still wanted to raw dog it.

[-] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

Rat burgers

[-] db2@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

With a great food spot too.

[-] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And fuck the movie The Fan starring Wesley Snipes. Demolition Man's the only Snipes movie I like.

-Jon "MC Vagina" Lajoie

[-] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago
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[-] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

I didn't know they made another one

[-] houndeyes@toast.ooo 11 points 1 day ago

Don't forget that moist virtual action!

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