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[-] 7uWqKj@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago
[-] alonsohmtz@feddit.uk 1 points 33 minutes ago* (last edited 32 minutes ago)

Everyone is saying "we don't," but do need a diet that's more varied than cats? (for example) If so, why?

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

Survival =/= nutrition

[-] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 6 points 4 hours ago

I'm a living proof that you can eat the same thing every day for decades and be just fine.

[-] starlinguk@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

If the food you're eating doesn't contain all the nutrients you need you're unhealthy as fuck and it will come back to haunt you.

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 12 points 7 hours ago

To add on to other peoples answers regarding the complete nutritional makeup of pet food; many animals can make a variety of the amino acids they need to survive with just a few inputs (like deer and cows eating only (mostly) plants), but some, especially predatory animals, cannot. They get those nutrients from the prey they eat, which in turn got them from the plants.

It essentially comes down to which enzymes any given organism can create, which ones their DNA codes for. Humans can't make a bunch of these amino acids themselves. Many (maybe all of them, not that far into my class yet) of the reactions taking in place in any living organism are entirely reliant on enzymes to catalyze them; that is, without them these reactions would take millions of years to complete.

BTW there are appr. 37x10^17^ (3,700,000,000,000,000,000) reactions happening in your body every second. All of them (or at least a great majority of them) require enzymes to complete.

[-] phanto@lemmy.ca 25 points 9 hours ago
[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 hours ago

Damn you. Another new white t-shirt with coffee and snot stains. Take my upvote.

[-] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 26 points 9 hours ago

need a variety of food to survive?

It's not true.

Boredom feels terrible while it lasts, but it doesn't kill you. In the end, humans usually start to get creative after boredom.

Oh, and yes, some food industry has found out things and told you things... yes, they were creative :-)

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 7 points 8 hours ago

What about the British? They were starving, and they didn't get creative. They just kept eating brown goo for centuries.

[-] starlinguk@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I like British food. I live in Germany now and if I see another Maultasche I'm going to scream.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago

We like carbs which are often brown and make for a good hangover food. Not sure about goo though?

[-] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 5 points 8 hours ago

I had heard that British cuisine was much more robust before WW1.

Also, if brown goo is meat-flavored, I'd be down for it.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago

Got a recipe book for the British working class that was written in the 1800s, even that has curry in it.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 4 points 8 hours ago

It is brown goo flavored, and you will eat it until you are completely brainwashed into liking it.

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago

I suppose that's why we added mild pain to our diet. Mix things up a bit.

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 34 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Asked my GF who's an aspiring crazy cat lady:

It's because (proper) cat food is engineered to contain all the nutrients they need. While it looks like a bland mush of only one thing, it's more like the cat equivalent of having several full nutricious meals run through a blender. The required variety is built in.

[-] wabasso@lemmy.ca 26 points 11 hours ago

I’m convinced you could create such a food for humans too, it’s just not many people want that.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Isn't that basically what Huel is?

[-] rockSlayer 29 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Speak for yourself, bachelor chow would solve many problems for me

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 10 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Awww shieeet I JUST got done finding a pee'n'gee. What am I gonna do with this thing now?

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[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 14 points 10 hours ago

I’m convinced you could create such a food for humans too,

You could, and it would be very simple to do so.

1: Take all the food you'd eat for, say, a week. Absolutely everything.

2: Blend it. Maybe add some extra vitamins to make up for the ones that will be lost due to processing.

3: Dehydrate it. (To make it more compact and less likely to spoil.)

4: Compress it into pellets.

Done. You have now created 'human food'.

[-] prettybunnys@piefed.social 3 points 8 hours ago

Blending it is pre-digesting it which means it doesn’t travel our bodies quite the same way.

We have long digestive systems for a reason.

I’m not saying it isn’t possible but you’d probably shit funny for a long time

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 3 points 8 hours ago

Pemmican! We should be eating pemmican.

[-] wabasso@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 hours ago

That’s what I find so absurd about the “humans need variety in their diet” mantra. If we need some vast unknown combination of things, how is it that letting people loose on supermarkets and choosing their own recipes somehow achieves that, compared to at least some first pass attempt based on macro nutrients?

[-] cattywampas@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

Because many of our modern staples are fortified with essential vitamins and nutrients.

[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 4 points 7 hours ago

We also get cravings for specific foods when our bodies are lacking in a nutrient that food contains. I don't think we have them for every nutrient our bodies need, hence why people can get nutrient deficiencies by accident even when the nutrient they need is available, but there's some instinctual failsafes for certain ones that must have been scarce or intermittent enough for cravings to confer an evolutionary advantage.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 6 points 8 hours ago

Ok, what we'll do is, we'll take some sort of kibble, A, fortify it, call it "Vegetable Delight". Then another sort of kibble, B, fortify that, call it "Ox Fondue". Then another, just like the previous ones, call it, say, "Mystery Surprise". All fortified. Then you just alternate them. Mondays, A. Tuesdays, B. Then Wednesdays you think C but nope! A again. Then B, then A, THEN B, and then, finally C, so you have something special to look forward to on Sundays.

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 6 points 10 hours ago

There are powdered meals that are supposed to offer balanced nutrition. I've heard of people living off Soylent, Huel, etc. I don't think it's good long-term, and the lack of chewing could cause problems. But it is feasible in principle.

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago

I ate only soylent for a long time, and the lack of chewing did cause me some issues: first was bad oral hygiene. I brush and floss twice a day (after breakfast and before bed), yet I still got a cavity. Chewing normal food also cleans off plaques on your teeth, so when you're not chewing anything those plaques just sit there fucking your shit up. Second (*and this is just my conjecture) chewing causes activity in a certain part of the brain to spike, so if you're not chewing anything that part atrophies and causes depression. I forget where I read the chewing part though. So, along with the cavity, I also felt generally sad about everything. I would still definitely have it for lunch everyday because the nutrients are there, but yeah, unfortunately you have to chew stuff. I thought about just chewing gum, but those are all chock-full of microplastics so...

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 10 hours ago

lack of chewing

this is also a solved issue with a mature industry

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

That's true, but we're not cats.

It's can be difficult to change a cat's food. You have to gradually introduce the new food mixed in with the old food, or the cat may just refuse to eat it.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 3 points 8 hours ago

Oh ho ho ho. They will eat. Eventually. Then they get more. Then they complain it's not enough.

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago
[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 14 points 9 hours ago

You as a human could also live with the same food every day if it covered every dietary need. Especially if you depended on someone else to acquire it and had no choice.

There is an evolutionary push for a rich variety of nutrients obtained from a variety of sources, but the mechanism driving that daily "need" for variety is force of habit and desire for novelty. On top of that, some people are happy to eat nothing but junk and have very narrow tastes. How come?

Also, I can assure you, a lot of cats will periodically stop eating a certain brand or flavor and go through cycles. Does it mean the food isn't really covering their needs or are they just bored of the same flavor every day? Hard to know, but I would argue your assumption about humans being too different from their pets when it comes to variety in their menu.

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago

Cats and similar animals are adapted to specific environmental niches, but humans are generalists. One of the drawbacks of being generalists is that we’re not specialized enough to fully subsist on any single food source.

[-] cattywampas@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

We can definitely subsist on a single food source if it's been engineered to be nutritionally complete like pet food has.

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 hours ago

We don't need a variety of food to survive. But, generally, we have choice, so we choose to vary our diet because it's more interesting.

Pets do not have a choice. They eat what they're given. Or they choose not to and die (a lil cat I was sitting chose that route).

[-] seathru@quokk.au 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

They eat what they’re given. Or they choose not to and die (a lil cat I was sitting chose that route).

What the fuck? Cats don't just chose not to eat and die. That cat died from neglect.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 2 points 8 hours ago

I was under the impression cats fed on sunlight and heat? I thought the food was just like, a scheme to drain the household economy.

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

He was well fed and offered different foods. His owners played with him and kept him clean. He didn't want to eat. They had him tested for allergies, etc but the vet didn't find anything wrong. They put him on something to increase his appetite. He ate a little. Then he stopped.

[-] Pirat@lemmy.org 5 points 9 hours ago

Wildcats (tigers, lions, bobcats, etc) will take down a prey animal. We think they just eat the muscle. In reality, they often go for the stomach of the herbivore they just brought down to get the vegetable matter there. Then they eat other internal organs (liver, spleen, kidneys) so they aren't just eating muscle.

For our pets, well, we all know they don't eat the same thing every day. Firstly, the the thing they do eat every day, pet food, has various nutrients included so it's a balanced meal for them. Secondly, we give them treats which may or may not be beneficial.

As for we humans wanting variety, it's exactly that. We want but don't need as much variety as we get. We enjoy the different flavors even if the items containing those flavors aren't exactly good for us (twinkies, 8 year scotch, etc). Our pets and wild carnivores don't get the opportunity to try these other flavors (well, our pets get some opportunity but not to the extent we have granted ourselves).

[-] YellowParenti@lemmy.wtf 2 points 9 hours ago

There's that tech bro that has a super strict diet for longevity. Its basically enough protein for him and veg, fruit to fill out the rest of his calorie goal along with some supplements. I wanna say Bryan or Ryan Johnson. its basically same everyday with a workout plan to live as long as he can.

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago

If you think about it, for the past hundreds of thousands of years we've been regionally locked in our areas so variety is a loose term.

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 6 points 10 hours ago

I have a low burnout rate with food, and there are probably meals that I could just keep eating repeatedly. Note that these are multi-ingredient foods so could theoretically offer balanced nutrition and be flavored to a preferred taste.

I don't do so for several reasons: cost, availability, convenience, sharing meals with others who have different food preferences, and simply because I still prefer variety.

[-] Vanth@reddthat.com 2 points 8 hours ago

Kongbap says nah, it's all you need to survive.

[-] DeepThought42@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Not sure that's a universal thing with cats. Unless she's really hungry, the current feline resident of my household most definitely will turn her nose up at a dish if it's the same as she was fed in the last meal.

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