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[-] xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 149 points 1 year ago
[-] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 96 points 1 year ago

Interestingly, the states rights debate is true, wholly.

The north wanted to keep the right to acknowledge escaped slaves as free, and the south kept sending people up there to kidnap free men and women. They were even known to kidnap free born black people and sell them into slavery.

The south also wanted to charge the north for this "service".

When people talk about states rights, remind them that the south was heavily infringing on the rights of the northern states.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 49 points 1 year ago

It's "true" on a technicality. It was about slavery.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

States joining the Confederacy were required to enshrine slavery in their constitutions. They didn't have the right to reject it. If it had anything to do with states rights at all, it was about ensuring the states didn't have the right to abolish slavery.

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[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 37 points 1 year ago

They also put it in their constitution that slavery could never be outlawed. Sounds like a really big issue for states rights

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 64 points 1 year ago

"Buy muh Southern Pride!"

"What about the south are you proud of that involves the battle flag of the side that wanted to keep slavery?"

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The flag for a nation that lasted less than 5 years. Bill Clinton's presidency was a longer piece of Southern heritage than that.

[-] xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 22 points 1 year ago

Cocomelon has lasted for over four times as long as the Confederacy

They're being beaten by mind-numbing nursery rhymes

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Matthew McConaughey's career is almost eight times as long as the Confederacy. Why aren't they proud of that piece of Southern heritage? Why am I not seeing this on the back of jacked-up pickup trucks?

[-] xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 14 points 1 year ago

Cuz "that would be gay", and Conservatives only allow themselves to be gay in secret

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[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

I was proud of being a punker in 1988. That phase lasted longer than the Civil War.

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[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've lived in Minnesota my whole life. Growing up, there was some religiously homeschooled dumb ass serving in the mn national guard who said that the Virginia battle flag was heritage. The last time I talked to him, I told him that the only heritage for us involving that flag is in the MN historical society archives.

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[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 66 points 1 year ago

Really? These clowns couldn't take over the capitol building and now they think theyre going to take over the country? Honk your nose for me on your way our the door, k?

[-] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

They actually believe that they can revolt, and with their AR-15s, magically take out National Guard troops and just acquire their weapons and armored vehicles.

A member of my family is not only a veteran, but also fell into this lunacy and thinks his work as a logistics officer and his NG training puts him on the level of the Navy SEALs. And he's almost 60. He salivates at the idea of fighting the mythical military oppression from the evil Demoncrats trying to take away his guns.

[-] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Also a factor, I think, is the notion that the military rank and file are secretly on their side, and in the event of an uprising would defect.

[-] Shialac@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Too bad they fucked over the country so much, 90% of people in the military are just poor people that cant afford college (or to live in general). I dont think these people will join some white supremacist fucks

[-] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Some of them might, and if a few state governments decide to side with them a lot of people will get hurt. Even if they lose.

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[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago

No civil war. This time just let them go. They will quickly devolve into third world countries. And my federal tax dollars will no longer go to their bullshit.

[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

They don't really want to secede. They want to dominate their opponents. C'mon bro.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

This is it. These people only respect power and hierarchy. Honestly most of the crazies will back down when they lose an election. January 6th was just the stupidest ones.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago

They're not gonna just go quietly.

If they could just live their lives in peace without infringing on the rights and freedoms of others they wouldn't need a civil war. They wouldn't have needed the first civil war either.

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[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

I dunno, the south might give us a run for our money this time around. I mean, they have some of the most elite soldiers in the country, including but not limited to: the Gravy SEAL's Meal Team Six, the Green Buffets, and the Roast Guard. Not to mention their many terror sleeper cells like the Yee-Hawdists, Y'all Qaeda and Vanilla ISIS.

Scary thought to put our uniformed men and women against that crack fighting force, they might come back with some severe PTSD.

[-] johnnycashsguitar@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

As a Southerner I find this hilarious.

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[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago

Considering the avg republican has to ride the diabetes scooters at Walmart I think the 2nd civil war will be a goddamn turkey shoot.

Let's find out, Trumptards!

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[-] andyortlieb@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 1 year ago

That sounds cool fun and easy but armed and untrained and undisciplined nut jobs crawling from the woodwork is not going to be a clean finish for anyone involved. Obviously this isn't meant to be a deterrent for the justice system... but we're working on a different tier here. It's not going to be high profile business and agencies fighting each other. It's going to be normal working people being attacked by deranged wing nuts and always by surprise, because there will be no centcom for them.

So, if you think you're going to be prepared for an outcome like this, I do wonder what you're packing.

[-] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dramatic and doomerpilled.

The US military will aggressively dismantle any secessionist activity if it comes to blood. Hopefully we get to see some combined arms ops with the good tech for once instead of holding back.

Meanwhile I'm gonna crack cold ones while I watch red states suffer from their own actions.

[-] Flambo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

The US military will aggressively dismantle any secessionist activity if it comes to blood.

There will definitely be no mistakes they make that cost uninvolved citizens their lives. No matter what, the U.S. military will never be wielded against opponents of the ruling regime, nor in a way that serves the personal interests of those in power.

Seriously, this is a bad outcome. This is a worse outcome. I'd rather have individuals crawling from the woodwork than the U.S. military being used against citizens.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 11 points 1 year ago

As someone outside the country, I think uncle sam will do just fine vs meal team 6.

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[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

A bunch of fat, crazy LARPers in the woods does not a confederacy make.

[-] Tammo-Korsai@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

The south will rise again.... slowly from their mobility scooters.

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[-] Smacks@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I've been seeing a few documentary style videos on YouTube talking about the uptick in far-right groups in the US. One guy was able to talk to a former group member, saying for the past year or-so they've been "preparing" for a civil war. Another member said they had people intentionally join the army to try and get people on the inside.

Documentary bro tried to contact the FBI about it and was able to get in contact with an agent, but the FBI essentially said they wouldn't do anything about it.

Although I don't think a civil war is going to happen anytime soon, it's scary to think that the FBI doesn't seem to care about any of this.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Something something those that wear the uniforms (or carry badges in this case) by day are the ones burning crosses at night.

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[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Don't worry, he's going to Federal prison, not jail.

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