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[-] melfie@lemy.lol 210 points 6 days ago

The reason RAM prices went up 4x is that a massive amount of not-yet-manufactured memory was bought with money that doesn't really exist to be put into GPUs that haven't been made yet, to be installed in data centers that haven't been built, powered by infrastructure that may never exist, to satisfy demand that isn't actually there, in order to generate profits that are mathematically impossible.

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[-] mitkase@lemmy.world 70 points 6 days ago

All that to create Artificial Intelligence that isn’t really intelligent.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 24 points 6 days ago

What do you mean?

Just walk the car wash!

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[-] HertzDentalBar 65 points 6 days ago

Going to be fucking hilarious when all the western companies get fucked by China taking over the market they don't seem to care about.

[-] isaacblach@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

Don't count on China. They are going to invade Taiwan next year and the global trade embargo will be a rounding error to the destruction of the tmsc factories during that war. Or they will capture the fabs and prohibit export to the US. Loose loose for us.

[-] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 36 points 6 days ago

"China, a country that hasn't invaded another country in 50 years, is going to invade this country" said the country that invades a country once a decade.

[-] Kissaki@feddit.org 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

China claiming Taiwan is its territory and threatening invasion, the regular military "training exercises", even including the specific goal of Taiwan landing operations, and continuous hybrid attacks for years already, like invasion of Taiwan waters with fishing vessels, and cyber attacks, and you're sitting here claiming China isn't a country that would invade others. What do you make of these kinds of activities, then?

The what-aboutism deflection doesn't work very well on an international comment section, either.

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[-] jali67@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 days ago

The issue is not black and white like you people that barely got by high school make it out.

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

China a country that has been trying to unify Taiwan since the civil war they couldn’t quite finish.

[-] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 6 points 5 days ago

When you live in the imperial core of one of the most militaristic nations in the history of the world, everything seems like a provocation.

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[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 16 points 6 days ago

They've been going to invade Taiwan next year for the last 30 years

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[-] jali67@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 days ago

They’re wealthy but absolute fucking morons. The people who fall for the “they have money so they must be smart” are such gullible buffoons. CCP is much more competent than American oligarchs, running what could’ve been great with better policy into the ground.

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[-] SalaciousBCrumb@lemy.lol 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Hmm I know China has a big push for AI as well, I wonder what their market is looking like.

Edit: https://www.chinatalk.media/p/how-much-ai-does-1-get-you-in-china Ah seems like their AI isn't as big due to lack of access to western chips.

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[-] huquad@lemmy.ml 43 points 6 days ago

Back in my day, we downloaded ram. 8GB at a time.

[-] null@lemmy.org 5 points 5 days ago

Which was used to then download a car.

[-] alekwithak@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

I believe that's the plan for the future, too. Conglomo A owns all the RAM, but we can rent access.

[-] huquad@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago

I hate that this is the plan. Time to burn it all down

[-] jali67@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 days ago

Exactly. No loyalty to this system. The only solution is to destroy it.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 days ago

I downloaded a gallon of cum and my parents got really mad

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[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

MY CLASSIC SCI-FI SOFT COVER BOOKS!!??!1

Edit: MY CLASSIC CONSOLE COLLECTION?!

The things I love the most don't have RAM, or I already have them 🤷

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago

My most recent hobby has been an old Suzuki Samurai that I dragged out of the woods a few years ago. It doesn't use much RAM. It doesn't even have fuel injection.

I've also been getting back into archery with my kid.

Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I think that making it harder to get a computer and play games is a huge miscalculation. If everyone is distracted by Call of Battle: Dutyfield then you have fewer bored assholes casting about for something to do, and if people can still play Factorio, you don't end up with bored, autistic, organized assholes casting about for something to do.

[-] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 31 points 6 days ago

And they told me I was crazy for putting 64 gigs into my machine back in early 2021. I "only" paid about 200 USD

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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 28 points 6 days ago

Go ahead, make a lucrative market for consumer ram, see how fast china figures out how ot start filling that need :)

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[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 38 points 6 days ago

. . . And then the market will be flooded with RAM that companies preordered and can't pay for, because the AI bubble burst before it could be manufactured.

Hey, I can dream, right? And seriously, I would be quite happy if this causes an increase in dumb appliances, devices, and cars in the meanwhile.

[-] Haquer@lemmy.today 33 points 6 days ago

Most of the lithography that is dedicated to RAM is being done for HBM modules, which are not consumer grade. So more likely it will end up in landfills.

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[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

What I'm surprised hasn't happened yet is RAM ICs being recycled at the retail level. As in, you could bring in an old laptop or phone with 32GB of soldered RAM and it would be desoldered and sold for cash or possibly even soldered into a new device you buy from that retailer.

I wonder how close we are to that business model arriving.

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[-] ptc075@lemmy.zip 32 points 6 days ago

I would LOVE to believe this will force automakers to return to using buttons instead of touchscreen.

Yeah, I know. But I'd sure love to believe it.

[-] originaltnavn@lemmy.zip 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I think this will be required to get full score on the safety test in Europe soon, so hopefully it can bleed into the global car market in a few years.

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[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Hyundai Motor group said they would commit to buttons but the leaks of the ioniq 5 refresh look like all the other chinese crap out there with a bigass tablet in the middle.

Also fuck Elon and Tesla for starting that shit

https://i.imgur.com/LgWLZsG_d.webp?maxwidth=1520&fidelity=grand

https://thekoreancarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/exclusive-ioniq-5-mule-with-pleos-new-steering-2-980x735.jpg.webp

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[-] realitista@lemmus.org 24 points 6 days ago

AI's are more important than humans now. I guess we should get used to this. Line must go up.

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[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 30 points 6 days ago

"everything you care about" - Time to change hobbies and care about things that don't have RAM then.

[-] palmtrees2309@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Starts to get into crochet, sewing and knitting.

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[-] criscodisco@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago

What if the unintentional consequence of hardware hoarding by AI companies is we have fewer devices being made that spy on us, like smart TVs and appliances.

[-] GalacticSushi 39 points 6 days ago

The idea is that in the future your "personal computer" will be a streaming stick that you plug into a monitor to access your Microslop Copilot Windows 12 OneDrive Azure Cloud Virtual PC for $99 a month.

Yup, they’re 100% trying to shift towards cloud computing. It has already been happening with gaming, and many players have decided that they’re okay with a slightly worse experience if it means they can run their games on a potato PC. Tech companies see the blood in the water, and know that there is money to be made in cloud computing. Everything is shifting to SAAS, so it only makes sense that hardware will be a subscription next.

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[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I'm aware, thanks.

Now I'm just contemplating whether I should upgrade from 32 GB DDR4 to 64 or 128 while it's still within the realm of possibility, or bet on memory prices coming back down within the next few years, and upgrade to an entirely new platform with DDR5 then.

At least I'm not planning on buying a brand new car anytime soon, or even a nearly new one. And my phone's fine for a few more years.

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[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Good thing AI sucks

[-] djdarren@piefed.social 17 points 6 days ago

I find myself at a point where I don't actually want any new computing devices, partly because of this, and partly because, well, what I have works fine for me.

I have an M2 MacBook Air that is still as solid as the day I got it (Sequoia for life) for the majority of my personal needs, plus a 2014 Mac mini running Mint as my home server, an M1 Mac Mini my dad gave me that runs my Home Assistant, and an old(er) PC that has a GTX 1060 GPU that's capable of playing most of the games I care to play. My phone is a Pixel 9 running Graphene which is a year old and nowhere needing a replacement, and I have an iPad mini that I barely use these days anyway.

I guess I'm lucky enough that my shit is new enough that it's still usable, and my use-case is light enough on resources that the older gear still works perfectly well for what I need.

My wife, however, needs a new PC...

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[-] nightlily@leminal.space 11 points 6 days ago

I‘m switching hobbies to gunpla. No one has managed to put DRAM in an airbrush to the best of my knowledge.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

i mean, i thought you were wanting to save money..

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[-] etherphon@piefed.world 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Most of the stuff I care about is like 30+ years old so prob not.

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[-] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago

I can't wait till these companies shutter their AI shit and that supply gets dumped back into the market

Knowing real life some other party will juice it and ride the ram shortage for another few years, just keeping the supply as a speculative income stream.

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