Should be easy, considering they don't exist to begin with.
Shush. We're this close to getting them to tax contrails, which would effectively be a tax on jet fuel.
until they decide enforcement means no contrails at all and suddenly they've found a new and exciting way to economically ruin the country.
Contrails are mostly water vapour that's condensed due to the hot exhaust of airplane engines.
They are certainly not completely avoidable, they are likely inescapable without sacrificing significant fuel efficiencies (eg: all methods stealth fighters use to suppress or mask their exhaust heat signature).. which would negate any benefits to global warming.
P. s. I'm not going to watch a YouTube video that could be a few paragraphs of textual explanation, because it'll no doubt be eight times longer than it needs to be for the benefit of more ad money or promotion in the almighty algorithm.
I'm not going to watch a YouTube video that could be a few paragraphs of textual explanation, because it'll no doubt be eight times longer than it needs to be for the benefit of more ad money or promotion in the almighty algorithm.
The linked one is a short video with a duration of 02:37. There's no padding in this one. Naturally, you can't actually get all of the nuances of the full-duration video, which also can't cover the full nuances of the study itself that it's based on (https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/2634-4505/ad310c).
Pop science videos making studies accessible to the general public are good, actually. I recommend that you stop being dismissive of them. Had you actually put in the time, you wouldn't have posted things that are in direct contradiction with the latest science on the subject, spreading misinformation in the process.
I've got no interest in watching even 2.5 minute YouTube videos when I can read the text of the same content in 45 seconds. Instructional videos can be great and valuable, but that's not what we're talking about here. There are a wealth of crap pop science videos on YouTube that misrepresent studies.
The study is interesting, but it's a feasibility study data utilizing a theoretical models - there are a lot of assumptions here. If they or other researchers go on to perform trials using their proposed flight adjustments to the autopilot software and validate it works, great! Until then, it's very far from settled science. Here is another recent study that proposes the main problem is incompletely-burned fuel which causes soot particles that sustain the contrails in the atmosphere for much longer than contrails from low-soot contrails, which quickly diaperse. This is an emerging field of study with few published studies and varying ideas on how to resolve issues.
Maybe if people want to share emerging scientific information that's important to them on a written forum they should put in the time to look to more valuable text sources, instead of dropping YouTube links with overconfident assertions that will put off people from watching them, eg, "contrails are completely avoidable".
Depends on your definition of "chemical". Technically all trails are chem trails, including hiking trails.
How are we this stupid?
Republicans are in control
3-4 decades of purposefully undermining public education
More like 5-7 decades.. "anti-nerd" culture has been popular since about the 50's
A large portion of people are stupid, it's sad
How do you think the conspiracy nuts will react if this bill becomes law and then there are just as many contrails in the sky as before?
Depends. How gay are the frogs?
It would be pretty funny if that makes those people snap and they end up being the ones to drag Trump and his cronies into the street and tear him apart like zombies.
Though they’d likely all just be shot to death while trying, which I guess maybe win-win?
We live in the stupidest timeline.
Hell yeah, brother. People have elevated the presumed sanctity of their beliefs, no matter how stupid, to be the most sacred of liberties. Even over life and health.
It sounds like they're mixing "chemtrails" and "cloud seeding". And they don't understand either...
How dare you read the article!
That is by far one of the stupidest public consultations I've read about.
Eh. They’re also blaming flooding on cloud seeding based on bad anecdotes.
The camp mystic flood, that was a massive storm that dumped shitoads of rain in an area known to prone to flash flooding, all because a conservative commentator in ala-fucking-bama happened to be near camp mystic in Texas to see them seeding clouds… just before the flood started
Probably, I suspect, because they don’t want to admit that GOP policies in Texas are fucking people over. Like the lack of being connected to either national power grid, or in the case of camp mystic, a dore lacking of storm/flood management infrastructure. (Including warning systems.)
Should be easy for the airlines to comply with, since they don't leave chemtrails, they leave contrails.
Red State voters living in abject poverty: "Republicans is gittin important stuff done!"
Whoopee. Now the fucking fringers have become the mainstream.
The House needs a bill to prevent idiots from entering politics.
We, uh, could just fund secular public education.
And yeah, I’m kinda pissed I have to add “secular” to that.
It bans cloud seeding and geoengineering. Passing this off as a 'ban on chemtrails' is deliberately dishonest.
a Class B misdemeanor for the injection, release or dispersal of “a chemical, a chemical compound, a substance, or an apparatus into the atmosphere within or above this state for the purpose of affecting the weather, including temperature, climate, and intensity of sunlight.
So they're going after yhe companies polluting the planet right... Right?
Presumably companies would be able to argue they aren't pushing out pollutants with the intention to change the climate
The sad thing is that there is a huge amount that could be done for global warming with some basic legislation around contrails. Clouds that high in the atmosphere are quite bad in terms of greenhouse effect. By avoiding flying through areas that they'd be generated there's a surprisingly large environmental benefit for minimal cost. A good explainer: https://youtu.be/QoOVqQ5sa08
I never thought it about as a green house thing before though I do remember reading an article many years ago that contrails do contribute when they spread out into cirrostratus clouds.
I was a meteorologist in the Air Force and did make forecasts telling pilots at what levels to fly to avoid making contrails since having a long silver line pointing to your exact location makes sneak attacks a little difficult. Perhaps commercial airlines should make use of that information. It's usually just a few thousand foot difference. Fly a little higher or lower and problem solved.
Oh, I get get it. The crazy weather that were experiencing is not global warming, it's chemtrails. And caused by the government. 🙃
This is what the decline in education and humility gets you in America.
State law. Kind of. It’s Alabama, so…
They should simply require the Jewish Space Laser zap any chemtrails.
Come on guys you all know."Atheist are using unicorn's to spread chemtrails to kill off all the Angeles in heaven."
Google calculated that planes could avoid the air conditions that cause vapor trails, but it would cost around 2% extra fuel. That means it's a hard no from any airline.
Republicans will do literally anything to avoid actually governing.
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