I love her. She's the queen of TMI during Q&A's. Like when she casually dropped that before she met her now husband, she "slept" with just about every single guest star. What a legend.
"Not just the men, but the women and..."
SHUT UP WESLEY
Wesley: "Did he just tell me to shut up?"
Dr. Crusher: "Shut up Wesley."
“Gene Roddenberry’s vision” was usually an upskirt shot.
Captain Jellico's "put on a real uniform" command was written in at Marina's request.
Smart move. Even by 1989's standards and fashions, some of the costumes they put her in were hideous.
It may be an unpopular opinion, but I think she looked way cooler in uniform.
It's a popular opinion. She looks WAY better. Hotter, too, which shows how dumb Berman is.
I'm quite fond of the long dress she got for one season. I'm sure it was hell as a costume, but I thought it looked tasteful. I also have the idea that the psychological/psychiatric lead on the ship ought to look somewhat "different" when she's working. Her uniform should be more casual, because her role is one where you want people to be able to get away from the structure, and to trust her confidentiality. The catsuits were dumb, and the Farpoint / S1 miniskirt was scandalous. but I did like the full-length dress.
Pretty much every "show off the attractive female main character" outfit that they've invented for Trek has not worked for me. Troi's outfits, Seven's outfits, T'pol's outfits... I think that actually the only exception is the Farpoint miniskirt and even then it just looks attractive but I don't like what it meant for Troi's brains so all things being equal I actually like her the most in the standard uniform jumpsuit which is, quite frankly, already designed to make people look good.
Now that we're decades away from the show and everybody involved has been interviewed a bunch of times, what I actually wish we could have seen was Troi as the diplomatic counselor instead of the vague psychological lead / poorly utilized character that we got. Because if she was the ship's therapist the long dress would work because it is tasteful and different yet still professional, but then we'd not be seeing her on the bridge the way we did.
I've posted this before.
My head canon is that when a new civilization joins the Federation, they get to pick the new Starfleet uniforms. The Betazeds gave us the TOS miniskirts.
You're a better man (I assume) than me. My young self very much appreciated Sevens outfit back in the day. Although I have to admit, the episode where she travels back in time to the Voyager in dry dock and wears the science uniform plus a ponytail was also a great look for her.
"Dress was so short that you could see what I had for breakfast" is such an amazing turn of words
My teenage self had no complaints about Troi's uniforms.
Tf are you still listening to that hormonal idiot, it's been over 30 years
Based Jellico.
I've seen so many meme edits of this scene that I was waiting for the reveal, lol.
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I still love how Jellico’s changes were all just stealth excuses for cast requests.
That being said, a four shift rotation is absurd.
They had to give Riker a reason to hate his guts to hell and back. And forcing him to organize and force his staff to do four shift rotations with no justification was pretty brilliant as a motivation.
I love Marina but her character was so poorly written that Guinom (Goldberg's character) did Troi's job as counselor better than Troi ever could. Poor woman's entire role in the show was to be tortured and objectified while her character primary love interest shagged his way across the galaxy, Crusher probably got an award for her work during all his alien STDs.
Guinom
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Possibly her best scene was in Enterprise, where during an appointment with Data you see that her PADD says "top beach destinations".
Didn't they revamp the uniforms after season one because they were horribly uncomfortable?
IIRC from interviews that the uniforms remained generally uncomfortable. They were very stiff, and led to the famous “Picard Maneuver.” Sirtis’ uniform was changed to get rid of the dated “Cosmic Cheerleader” outfit. IMO her character’s early uniform was more in line with ToS’s making women on the Enterprise more “hot chick” than officer.
Even back then I thought she looked like she was freezing.
I want the starfleet unisex dress
In the first season that dress was also worn by men... How woke...
But crucially, not by anyone in the main male cast. They threw a few skants on to a couple of male extras to forestall accusations of sexism. A figurative (and and near literal) figleaf.
Frankly, a unisex, utilitarian kilt would probably have worked a lot better for gals and guys, but someone got greedy for “underbutt” and ended up with an outfit so disliked that it was quickly phased out.
We just needed more men in the knee-high boots
It's the pilot or first episode when you watch it on streaming all remastered and high Def and there's scenes where they clearly had trouble position the camera to avoid a tv-ma rating, that original outfit was so short. It's also rough she still had a lot of trauma from basically being used by the industry for sex appeal and noting else. But at least Star Trek had men in the background in the same length mini skirt.
See what I had for breakfast
…tell me more
Taco Bell
I had a protein bar
It wasn't just the dress, it was those knee-high boots that made critics call her an intergalactic cheerleader.
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