So this Kris guy is an immigrant huh?
A violent immigrant
When the United Kingdom sends its people, they’re not sending their best...
I mean, they did send over their religious extremists, slavers, and prisoners, before moving on to other colonies. And the US has never recovered.
America** has never recovered
FTFY
The world has never recovered
FTFTFY
"Everything was fine, then the British showed up"
"Well shit. Pack it up folks, they brought a flag."
Typical maga loser. So sorry for the woman, standing up to fundamentalist extremists in her own family.
On the morning of the shooting, at her father’s four-bedroom, $900,000 home, Littler said Lucy had asked her father, “How would you feel if I was the girl in that situation and I’d been sexually assaulted?” while they were discussing Trump.
Kris responded that he had two other daughters living in their home, so it would not upset him very much.
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FAMILY VALUES!
They only have a problem with "honor killings" when they're done by brown people.
These people view their children as property, and believe "I brought you into this world and I can take you out of it" at literal face value.
Degenerates like him belong on a cross.
He claims it was an accident, and honestly, even if I completely believe his story and take him at his word (I don't) what poor impulse control from that childish, ignorant, weak, stupid, fragile man. No surprise he's a Trump supporter.
Trump supporters are too emotional to own weapons.
Now replace British by Muslim and trump by Allah (or Black and Obama), and watch right wing media explaining how "these people" are dangerous and not compatible with "our values".
Our values
It is within their value framework, just not the correct belligerent and leader
Muslim woman shot dead after arguing about Donald Allah. Black woman shot dead after arguing about Donald Obama.
Unfortunately in their minds, like the police and court, they'd still think the father was faultless AND ignore/miss that comparisons completely
Murdered his own daughter for a person who fundamentally hates him.
The "I don't know how the gun went off" thing is bullshit. Even if it was accidental, which it wasn't, then she's still dead because of his actions.
There is no such thing as an "accidental discharge" when guns are involved.
Only "negligent discharges"
This, I always get slammed for it in gun communities but I think Glock convincing everyone that pistols don’t need safeties (and later that safeties are a liability) is the single most dangerous action in the gun community in my lifetime. Safeties aren’t there to keep the gun from firing on its own, that’s just any modern gun that doesn’t malfunction, they exist as a final measure against human error.
If you buy a gun without a safety and allow anything to touch the trigger when it’s pointed at something you are not fully comfortable with shooting, you are negligent.
Forget the whole Trump angle that might be motive. Why wasn't he at least charged with manslaughter? It seems outrageous that he could claim accidental and get away with it.
In a statement issued by his lawyers, the killer said, “I fully accept the consequences of my actions, and there isn’t a day I don’t feel the weight of that loss - a weight I will carry for the rest of my life
Bull Fucking Shit.
'Man' murdered his daughter is cold blood and expects everyone to feel sorry for him. I hope he rectally gets he deserves in prison.
Prison rape isn't funny or acceptable when it happens to bad people either. It just perpetuates the idea that anal sex between two men is always a savage act.
Instead, hope he gets savagely assaulted regularly for what he did.
the leftism leaving peoples body when talking about prison abolition
no, but honestly, violent revenge fantasies don't help anyone, not the victims, and for sure not society. That goes for prison rape especially (as you correctly put it), but same goes for assault or other forms of punishment.
Keep violent people like him away from people they could hurt, sure. But never give up trying to reform them into compassionate members of society. And if punishment is really something needed to put one's mind at ease: The worst thing that could happen to him is he gets better as a human being and has to live with the consequences and guilt of his actions until the day he dies.
There's certain conditions that you cannot reform. Murdering your own daughter over a verbal disagreement? We don't have the resources to focus on rehabilitating him if its even possible. I'd rather these theoretical prison therapists spend more time working with inmates that went to prison for aggravated assault in a bar fight etc.
Sure, in a perfect society where his rehabilitation program doesn't take time, money, and mental anguish from the therapist...it'd be nice to just separate him from society and revisit his ability to rejoin as a productive member decades later. But as of right now I don't want to pay 45¢ to cover the cost of his rehabilitation when I could instead pay 20¢ to rehab a less complicated individual and the extra 25¢ could go to social safety nets or education.
No, there are some crimes that deserve to be punished by death.
This is not to rehabilitate or reform, it's to protect the rest of society.
The death penalty probably doesn't work. And talking about who "deserves" the death penalty is once again just lust for vengeance.
Also it's clearly cruel and unusual punishment, which we are forbidden from using.
I watch a court video the other day of a judge telling a young 'offender' that if he's not careful, he will go to prison and get "passed around" by the other inmates. I thought to myself "This judge, who knowingly sends people to a place where he know they will get raped, is an affront to justice. What an immoral piece of shit who willingly works with a system that is contrary to our legally defined moral obligations."
It's like Spencer Tracy said in the movie Judgement at Nuremberg. The very first time a Judge sentences one person to such unconscionable punishment, that is when the Judge becomes fully complicit with the system. Not just complicit, but a necessary and willing part of the system's survival and propagation.
"My daughter, who was always mad about my guns, agreed to come see my new gun. I don't know how it accidentally shot her in the head."
That a grand jury in TX didn't move on this is a real indictment of the citizens of that state. But we already knew what sort of people live there and are proud of their politics.
I mean, juries are chosen in part by the defense. You can't treat them as a fair sampling of a population. You have to visit a place, learn its history, get to know people who have spent their lives there, and ask them their genuine opinion. Only then can you truly know whether Texas is a spiritually cruel, intellectually bereft, and socially monstrous place.
Luckily, I can confirm this for you.
When he gets snapped out of his cult induced mind, he's in for a hell of a time realising that he killed his own daughter in the name of a pedophile rapist.
Statments like this are so baffling because I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.
It might just be my Australian English.
I doubt it. I'm a US citizen and speak the US version of English. I understood your meaning, but it sounds like you think he will ever realize he did something wrong.
This man, by his own admission, took his daughter into his bedroom to "try to reconcile with her," and somehow in the next 15 minutes his pistol, which was in his bedroom not a common room of his, presumably ranch/rambler style home, appeared in his hand. At some point the Glock handgun that he owned "went off," on its own accord, as he claims he didn't have his finger on the trigger. If this gun were not a Glock, I might believe that. Glocks don't have hair triggers. You have to squeeze with your entire hand to pull the trigger on a Glock, and they don't go off accidentally.
Beyond all of that, no responsible gun owner has their guns loaded at all times. I grew up all over but spent a lot of time in IN, KY, PA, and OH. I met a LOT of militia members thanks to my friend's parents. These people keep guns. They also may have some ammo. The guns and the ammo aren't laying around combined, they aren't even in the same safe.
This man knowingly committed premeditated murder on his daughter by even touching his gun while he was inebriated. The fact that he got away with it is just an indication of how broken our punishment system is.
He's NEVER going to "snap out" of it. He is in the worst echo chamber there is to claim he was justified.
Edit: I'm a US citizen, a Life Scout, the son and grandson of multiple US Veterans, and US Navy Veteran, myself. I'm familiar with my guns. Heck, I own a small arsenal, but it is in Indiana in my parent's land, and I live in California. I would need a serious reason to go dig up Matrix levels of weaponry. My crossbows are more than I need, and unlikely to be misused, as most people wouldn't be able to even cock the bow or load the bolt.
This is exactly correct. There is very little chance that this wasn't intentional, premeditated murder. This guy intentionally killed his daughter, he planned it, I believe he brought her into the room for that purpose and he knew what he was going to do.
Non-Americans seem to be really struggling to understand our country. They keep expecting us to be able to "do something" about Trump. They're acting like he's a normal president that we willingly elected. Half of them are expecting American peasents to defeat our military using only muskets, and the other half expects the GOP to be moved by strongly worded letters. Whenever something like this happens in America, whenever a father kills a daughter in cold blood due to some honor-related reason, there are always comments from foreigners talking about "he's gonna feel bad when he realizes he commited murder." You guys, he knows he committed murder. It was premeditated murder.
I’m beginning to wonder if the libraries worth of books written about WWII were an attempt to try to understand a phenomenon, but in all that examination we were still unable to identify the best way to prevent or battle fascism.
reminds me when a woman ran her husband over because he didn't vote for mitt romney during the 2012 election.
these politicians don't give a fuck about you and won't hesitate to take away your livelihood no matter how 'loyal' you are.
I bet I can guess what side of the issue Dad was on.
trump derangement syndrome strikes again. this mental disorder has infiltrated almost all levels of government including ICE and has killed 2 US citizens. and now another one. when will there be a cure of this disorder.
Way the fuck more than 2. You may not have seen the other ≈500 or so, because those deaths weren't caught on camera, but since ICE was founded in 2003, around 500 people have died in ICE custody. In the last year that has skyrocketed to around or over 60 people dying in a single year (2025). Previously the high point, even under the first Drumpf administration was only around 30-32 people in a year.
In 2025 60 people died in ICE custody. In 2026 they have gunned down, directly murdering in public as opposed to in custody, 2 people before they took them into custody, THAT WE KNOW OF.
Who the fuck knows what they are doing outside of camera range. That's like 99% of US territory, though admittedly ≈80% of the population lives in the scanscapes of the cities and towns.
Is the current world not terrible or eventful enough that we need to post articles about individual actions from fucking JULY?!
I guess Lemmy is becoming Reddit.
Hey I'm confused, where are you getting July from? No offense meant btw, just trying to understand where I may be missing something? The article seems to have been posted yesterday and the death seemed to have happened last January but we didn't hear about it because something something British courts as far as I could understand from the article
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