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submitted 3 months ago by RandAlThor@lemmy.ca to c/world@lemmy.world

“Very, very senior” officials in the Trump administration have had secret meetings with far-right Canadian separatists trying to shake the foundations of the country. The covert meetings between high-ranking U.S. officials and the Alberta Prosperity Project come as a widening rift appears between Canadian leadership and the White House. Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney used a speech in Davos, Switzerland, last week to call out President Trump for creating a “rupture” in the existing world order.

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[-] Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 133 points 3 months ago

I heckin' HATE the Alberta Prosperity Project! If we ever went "independent" we'd get Venezuela'd immediately!

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 106 points 3 months ago

Alberta wouldn't ever be "independent." At best they would basically get annexed by the US, same way Russia took Crimea, claiming that the presence of separatists justified their actions.

[-] Paragone@lemmy.world 51 points 3 months ago

That's the STRATEGY.

Thank you for making it explicit.

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[-] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Thank you for making me see that it is a strategy!

[-] Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 months ago

Yeah, they all talk a big game about independence, but it's all hogwash.

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[-] BaraCoded@literature.cafe 99 points 3 months ago

The far-right international coordination must be crushed.

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[-] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 75 points 3 months ago

What's it going to take for Canada to start you know viewing this as treason from certain people? Cuz it's absolutely treason.

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 months ago

Yup, needs to be shut down and them charged, and then you'll see a US temper tantrum, which just proves what they were up to.

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

If Canada takes a page out of America's book then there could be an actual violent insurrection and masked federal agents executing Canadians and they still won't view it as treason.

[-] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 months ago

I live in the treasonous province and I'll tell you most people in Edmonton at least are real Canadians and not fascists.

[-] bagsy@lemmy.world 75 points 3 months ago

What a fucking menace. Do they honestly think they can smash and grab an entire country? They are making themselfes the common, lifelong enemy of many, many groups of people.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 47 points 3 months ago

Do they honestly think they can smash and grab an entire country?

Like Venezuela?

[-] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

Like the U.S.?

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

They did that, but still don't actually control the country. Mostly because they're fucking morons.

The CIA usually holds their own competence in higher regard than reality does. All because Hollywood, and Tankies, think the CIA is magical or some shit.

They're more like a small child with a machine gun, especially under Trump. You have to question how they got it, and how many people will get hurt, and you can be fairly sure nothing constructive will come out of it.

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[-] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

Yes, they (MAGA) do think they can do that. Their sense of entitlement and lack of empathy are boundless. The U.S. is going rogue, we are in the run up to WWIII, and I am not being hyperbolic. The rest (non-MAGA) aren't paying attention, can't see what they don't want to believe, or, like me, are horrified, terrified, and making plans to get out of dodge before the shit hits the fan.

On the positive side, the U.S. is strongly teeing up financial collapse, which will likely hit towards the end of this year (maybe mid to late October?) Look at what gold is doing. It's the biggest gold bull market of all time, already eclipsing the 1981 peak that came from the stagflation era following Nixon's removal of the gold standard, and that's even adjusted for inflation. The U.S. is running a ~6% budget deficit, consumer confidence is crashing, a leading indicator of a recession, ~1/3 of the U.S.' $38 trillion in debt comes due and will have to be rolled over in a higher interest rate environment and at a time where the world is divesting of U.S. debt, and Trump gets to appoint a lackey as Chair of the Fed in May. You can 100% bet on the fact that the Fed is going to have to buy treasuries (i.e., print money) to cover the debt, which will devalue the currency boost inflation, and destroy the dollar. The Fed will also juice rates. We'll have a boom in stocks with a blow-off top that will make the 1929 crash look quaint. There will be massive business failures, bank runs, and complete chaos, with a good chance of civil war (we're already in a "cold" civil war, somewhat analogous to The Troubles.) Accordingly, I don't see the conquest of Canada as likely before the situation collapses in on itself. However, if MAGA emerges from the chaos with its grip on power intact, god help us all (and I'm an atheist.)

[-] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

It is too early to separate MAGA from USA. That will happen when MAGA is defeated and banned.

I draw a parallel between Nazis and Germany and MAGA and the USA. For the world, Germany was Nazi, just as for the rest of us, the USA is MAGA now. The USA is harming the world and when it stops (when MAGA is just another dark page in US history), we (the rest of the world) will stop equating MAGA and the USA.

Unfortunately, the US military is too strong and no one can bomb the USA, that will never happen. Therefore, the people of the USA must defeat MAGA. They brought it to power, they will have to defeat it and never let it arise again.

If this does not happen for some time, the USA eventualy will cease to exist as a superpower but at the cost of millions of victims.

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[-] baller_w@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 months ago

We’ve done it before (violating sovereignty). Kind of a lot. Oh man…I hate this list. Looking at it all (AI generated) at once is a big oof. Several are joint operations.

Year(s) – Aggressor – Victim – Colloquial name / shorthand

  • 1846–1848 – United States – Mexico – Mexican–American War
  • 1893 / 1898 – United States – Kingdom of Hawaii – Overthrow & Annexation of Hawaii
  • 1899–1902 – United States – Philippines – Philippine–American War
  • 1903 – United States – Colombia / Panama – Panama Secession (Canal Coup)
  • 1912–1933 – United States – Nicaragua – U.S. Occupation of Nicaragua
  • 1915–1934 – United States – Haiti – U.S. Occupation of Haiti
  • 1916–1924 – United States – Dominican Republic – U.S. Occupation of DR
  • 1953 – United States (CIA) – Iran – Operation Ajax
  • 1954 – United States (CIA) – Guatemala – Guatemalan Coup
  • 1958 – United States – Lebanon – Lebanon Crisis
  • 1960–1965 – United States (CIA) – Congo – Lumumba Assassination / Congo Crisis
  • 1961 – United States – Cuba – Bay of Pigs Invasion
  • 1964 – United States – Brazil – Brazilian Military Coup
  • 1965 – United States – Dominican Republic – Operation Power Pack
  • 1969–1973 – United States – Cambodia – Secret Bombing of Cambodia
  • 1960s–1970s – United States – Laos – Secret War in Laos
  • 1970–1973 – United States (CIA) – Chile – Chilean Coup
  • 1976 – United States – Argentina – Dirty War / Junta Support
  • 1979–1989 – United States – Afghanistan – Operation Cyclone
  • 1980s – United States – Nicaragua – Contra War
  • 1983 – United States – Grenada – Invasion of Grenada
  • 1989 – United States – Panama – Operation Just Cause
  • 2001–2021 – United States – Afghanistan – War in Afghanistan
  • 2003 – United States – Iraq – Iraq War
  • 2011 – United States / NATO – Libya – Libyan Intervention
  • 2011–present – United States – Syria – Syrian Civil War (U.S. Intervention)
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[-] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 52 points 3 months ago

So tit-for-tat being fair play, sounds like Canada can kidnap and imprison Trump.

[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

Thank you, I just daydreamed this for a moment. That was nice.

[-] H4CK3RN4M3D4N63R570RM@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 months ago

Me too. Wouldn't it be funny if we kidnapped him an no one really tried to get him back?

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[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago

How is this not an act of war?

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[-] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 46 points 3 months ago

I’d say California should hold a referendum to join Canada in response, but then I discovered California’s economy alone has 4.3 trillion GDP compared to all of Canada’s 2.6 trillion. Amazing that the average Canadian still has better access to healthcare 😅

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 42 points 3 months ago

I bet that if California had universal healthcare, the GDP would skyrocket. Healthy people are productive people. Ditto for doing free education, genuine anti-corruption, and...(goes on)

[-] dellish@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

What? If the country looks after the population, the population will look after the country? That would never work! You know, except for the various countries where it provably does work..

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[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago

Why the fuck does this administration think they can just buy countries?? Like where tf is all this coming from?

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 51 points 3 months ago

An asshole who was taught his whole life that he can buy whatever he wants and do whatever he wants without consequence was shat into office.

It's just a continuation

[-] C4551E 24 points 3 months ago

and thus far, the world is still yet to prove otherwise

[-] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 months ago

Because not a single world leader is stepping up to do anything about it. Although they don't intend to buy anything, that's the excuse to the pretense to war. "We tried to acquire them peacefully but there was no reasoning with them. Acquiring Canada was for national security"

If the Canadian government or EU actually cared, the Canadian border would look like the Korean DMZ. But instead the UK sends one troop to Greenland.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 40 points 3 months ago

If Canada is smarter than America, they will deal with this decisively. It's one think to be a big dickhead online, screaming for revolution. It's a whole other thing to be meeting with representatives of a hostile government who has made many threats of invasion. That's fucking treason, and Canada should deal with it right the fuck NOW, and send a clear message to future traitors. Don't wait to see if it gets worse, like we do here in America, deal with it preemptively.

[-] Kaz@lemmy.org 13 points 3 months ago

100% treason right there

[-] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 35 points 3 months ago
[-] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago

No one here wants this. It's an incredibly small minority of morons and nothing will ever come of it. It's just a bunch of noise because our premier is a piece of dog shit. She will be gone come next election, if she lasts until then.

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[-] Wilco@lemmy.zip 32 points 3 months ago

Well, it seems that it is perfectly legal to abduct a country's president with military force and then put them on trial.
Care to help us out Canada?

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[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago

Trump and his administration are a dumpster fire. Countries should just cut all contact at this point.

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[-] froh42@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

Would there be a way for Minnesota to leave the US and join Canada?

[-] uberfreeza@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

"I'm joining the war against Canada on the side of Canada."

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

This is the "new world order" Alex Jones type psychos have pretended to be afraid of. Now that it's happening, they fucking love it because the reality was they just needed a scary story to attach to people they already hated. Now that the people they like are creating the new world order, they fucking love it. As long as they control the one world government, they'd love for that to happen.

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[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

Installing violent juntas in South America is so 20th Century. Now we're installing violent juntas in North America.

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[-] piskertariot@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

MAGA showed up in Greenland, handed red hats to homeless people ands aid "Look how much they want us here"

They're doing the same thing in Alberta. The "Forever Canada" petition showed that people sitting on street-corners could gather 400k signatures to stay in Canada.

A well funded Maga Movement is renting out stadiums for a counter petition. I expect they'll get less than 100k signatures.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

All y'all thought there was going to be a US Civil War, but it turns out the first shots are getting fired across the Alberta/Saskatchewan border.

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