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[-] red_tomato@lemmy.world 101 points 1 month ago

What’s most immersion breaking is that they put pants on the Greek soldiers.

[-] Maultasche@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago
[-] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

Pants on a Viking ship...?

I'd kinda like to see that.

[-] moopet@sh.itjust.works 67 points 1 month ago
[-] Akasazh@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

A riddle more intriguing and mesmerizing than Theseus' ship

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The jeans wherein Theseus and the youth of Athens returned from Crete had thirty rivets, and was preserved by the Athenians down even to the time of Demetrius Phalereus, for they took away the old denim as they decayed, putting in new and strong patches in their places, insomuch that this jean became a standing example among the philosophers, for the logical question of things that grow; one side holding that the jeans remained the same, and the other contending that it was not the same.

[-] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

The true mpv of this entire thread.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

The second one. The boat is meant to represent a dragon, just without the appendages, and the second one is where its back legs would be. Could also have a pair for up front, I suppose.

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure nobody wore pants in ancient greece. The real greeks still don't wear pants.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 68 points 1 month ago

~~Homer's Iliad~~ The Epic Cycle that Homer's Iliad is part of literally has an Aethiopian (Sudanese) army in it. It is also a plot point early in the Odyssey that Athena manages to get Zeus to let Odysseus actually go on the fucking odyssey because Poseidon is away in Aethiopia and therefore can't object

Edit: misremembered which poem Memnon was in. The Iliad does contain references to Aethiopia, but Memnon and his army star in a different part of the Trojan War story

[-] Saapas@piefed.zip 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't know what characters the black people being complained about are. Are they characters from modern Sudan, Ethiopia etc or are they meant to be regular Ancient Greek characters?

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 25 points 1 month ago

I don't know, my point was more just that there are absolutely plenty of black people in the relevant literature

[-] Saapas@piefed.zip 5 points 1 month ago

If the person is portraying one of those I don't really get the complaint 

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 7 points 1 month ago

There were absolutely black Greeks who were not just recent jmmigrants because humans move around constantly and no area has ever been 100% anything. Sure, overwhelmingly something, but never 100%.

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[-] gjoel@programming.dev 52 points 1 month ago

I'm not commenting on the black people, but it's honestly always such a bullshit take to say that something like lack of consistency in a movie cannot be ruined because it has supernatural elements. Like the actor complaining that people asked him why he didn't lose weight after walking for months, and he points to the dragons. Yes! There are dragons! They are part of Game of Thrones! A guy should still lose weight if he walks for months on a sparse diet! (Also not commenting on having immersion ruined because overweight dude remains overweight, only on the argument)

[-] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 54 points 1 month ago
[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 month ago

Because the 530i is now a 4 cylinder. You now need to go to at least the 540i.

At least for diesels, 530 remains an inline 6. How am I going to destroy The Ring with a puny 4 cyl?

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[-] wer2@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 month ago

What about all the Gauls/Celts they cast as Greeks? Complete immersion break. :P

Don't they know the ancient Greeks didn't have film technology! How can I watch this?

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, and because, as everybody knows, black people didn't exist until modern times. 😒

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 10 points 1 month ago

They were officially invented in 1612 when the politically correct baron Du le penii of asswipe got high and said white girls have no ass, so he invented black people!

[-] stickly@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago
[-] imapuppetlookaway@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Interesting, sad, and no surprise. From the linked article:

"Role in the History of Racist Ideas

In the 21st century, the work of Zurara has been re-examined for its foundational role in the development of modern racist ideology. Historian Ibram X. Kendi, in his 2016 book Stamped from the Beginning, argues that Zurara was the world's first racist because his chronicle was the first to articulate a comprehensive defense of the African slave trade based on the concept of Black inferiority.[12] Kendi posits that Zurara's writing was not the cause of the Portuguese slave trade but rather a product of it; Prince Henry's economic and political self-interest in the trade of enslaved Africans came first. Zurara was then tasked with creating a narrative to justify these policies.[13] According to this view, Zurara's chronicle established a powerful and enduring justification for racism by portraying enslaved Africans as savages who were being civilized and saved through their enslavement, thereby creating racist ideas to rationalize pre-existing racist policies.[14]"

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[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's no sight of Michael Caine in the credits. This breaks immersion for me: I can't believe it's a real Nolan movie without Michael Caine. Every Nolan movie needs to have him or Cillian Murphy at the very least, ideally both.

[-] HurricaneLiz@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

That's funny, bc too many racist ppl ruin my immersion in life

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They ruin my fantasy that most people aren't hateful and cruel.

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[-] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago

Black people were invented by Woke Hollywood in the year 2019 AD in order to ruin movies.

[-] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 18 points 1 month ago

I haven’t watched the movie, but I would imagine Africans is pretty common around Greece?

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[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

How insane to you need to be to think the ancient Greeks didn't know about Africa? literally all of art history comes down the the Egyptians and Greeks teaching, learning, and reteaching each other art skills over the course of centuries.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago

Uh yeah, a white giant cyclops, duh

[-] Avicenna@programming.dev 10 points 1 month ago

It is widely known that black people did not exist back in ancient greece, duh

[-] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Don't tell that to checks notes.... Americans

[-] andxz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Someone certainly didn't do all that well at their history lessons. If Memnon led an ARMY from Aethiopia to the siege of Troy there might've just been ..say, a few people of different fucking complexions mucking about in the immediate aftermath of said siege.

Not to mention all the trade going on for centuries in those parts.

..and also, yeah, a Cyclops is just fine because it happens to be the right color, right?

But this is otherwise a complete dealbreaker, is it? What the fuck? (I mean, I know it's just a racist piece of shit spewing idiocy, but still, what the everliving fuck?)

[-] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

um, the Lotus Eaters

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 7 points 1 month ago

This smells like another "I'm a gay black man" moment.

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[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

What language were the actors speaking in?

[-] tetris11@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My immersion of Ghost of Tsushima was ruined when I saw female lords being treated as equals to male lords.

I thought, "were they really equals back in Feudal Japan? This ruins my immersion."

Then our brave, rugged, honorable lead Samurai who we respect, jumps on to his knees and prostrates himself at every opportunity in front of his uncle/lord, saying unironically how unworthy he is to exist in the presence of such a divine being...

...and I was like, "oh yeah. In those moments where he is actually true to his period, I lose all respect for him."

Fair play game, fair play.

[-] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago

He means the immersion of his nazi fantasy land. The one where he is superior and only good white people exist. No jews, no other ethnic group other than Germanic, Nordic, Slavic or - dare I say - Saxon, Anglo even. Anything that breaks this delusion sends him off into a spiral of rage.

Then he posts about it online.

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[-] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

I'm a huge fan of the musical based on The Odyssey. . There are so many animatics and animations made by fans. Notable examples (personal favorites) are Wouldn't You Like animated by Slander, A short part of an earlier song mixed with a near end song by Slander as well, and my personal two favorite animations done by Mr. Gameron (the songs were combined by another, apparently with the blessings of the original creator, as referenced in the comments). The entire thing is a great watch/listen, however.

[-] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago

Tbh it's so childish to immerse into worlds

[-] X@piefed.world 25 points 1 month ago

That’s, uh, certainly a take.

[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 1 month ago

Reddit must be leaking...

[-] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago
[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 17 points 1 month ago

Being an adult sounds like it sucks.

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Only children should have an imagination...? Gee I wonder why the world is so fucked up.

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