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Donald Trump's increasingly violent vision is coming through loud and clear to supporters like the MAGA gunman in New Mexico.

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[-] style99@kbin.social 119 points 2 years ago

Republicans don't want freedom or justice or anything that they claim to be for. They only want unrelenting flames of vengeance on everything that they hate: which is basically everything that exists. They literally are a lake of fire.

[-] Bipta@kbin.social 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

When my friend became a Republican after a being a lifelong Democrat, one of the first things he started to say was, "never let the opposition control the language."

The right defines those words, freedom, justice, with what their empty ideology represent; not their actual meanings.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

There was a great piece on the notion of Southern liberty (the way the right defines it) vs. the way virtually everyone else defines it. The right's idea of "liberty" is being able to rule over others.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 33 points 2 years ago

When Bush was elected, his main concern was revenge on Saddam. When Trump was elected, his main objective was to show what he would have done during the 08 financial crisis instead of what Obama had done.

The next republican president will probably be obsessed with getting revenge for the pandemic. It's what they do and why they can't govern.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Cruelty is the point. That's all that guides the right. The base, anyway. The elite just want corporate rule and tax cuts for themselves.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

When Trump was elected, his main objective was to show what he would have done during the 08 financial crisis instead of what Obama had done

No it wasn't. It was to destabilize the country at the behest of Vladimir Putin.

[-] Exatron@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Republicans would be great Daleks.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 74 points 2 years ago

Ryan Martinez, of East Mountains, pulls a gun during a rally outside the Rio Arriba County building in Española, N.M., Thursday, Sept. 28, 2023.

Wow didn't even hear about this one.

[-] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

“As of Sepember 30, at least 571 people have been killed and 1,947 other people have been injured in 487 shootings.” It’s hard to keep up with the violence when there are nearly two mass shootings every day.

[-] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago

There's a bunch of different notions about "the end of politics," but mostly I've seen it refer to the fact that the economic system in the US is basically not up for debate at this point. The issues that are up for debate now do not threaten the basic structure of the political economy, or the economic arrangements of people in this system.

I disagree somewhat about the "both sides" criticism of the media here. This "both sides" approach isn't because the media "hasn't figured out" how to move beyond conventional 90s politics, it's because the media subsists on it's ability to exploit the viewer's attention and emotions. There's plenty of writing and analysis of "real" politics, but the biggest news networks aren't running that as top stories because it doesn't offer the engagement of partisan culture war debates.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 8 points 2 years ago

They don't see it that way. It's like how the Confederates broke away after Lincoln's election even though Lincoln promised he wasn't going to abolish slavery. It doesn't matter that we aren't going to change the economic system, the fact that they know we don't fully support it is the same as trying to replace it.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I’ve seen it refer to the fact that the economic system in the US is basically not up for debate at this point

Well yeah, because we have the best one in human history.

[-] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago

Well written article. That there’s still such discussions about the politics of the US means that maybe there’s still hope.

[-] MelodiousFunk@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago

The world needs more journalists like Will Bunch.

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 11 points 2 years ago

sorry for the unrelated post, but what community should this go in?

there’s a lot going on here that needs appreciating

[-] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago

!whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works ?

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

Thank you! Somehow I haven’t seen that community until now.

[-] Sanity_in_Moderation@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago
[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

Thank you for the suggestion. I was wondering about that one, but wasn’t sure if this counts as a meme or is meme-y enough… between communities that are only memes and communities that only allow articles, not sure where this is supposed to fall.

[-] catfish@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

He looks dejected. Sweet

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is one of the reasons I got a concealed carry permit. These mfers are nuts and won't respond to kindness. We're lost as a country. Just a matter of time before it shows.

[-] RazorsLedge@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

We definitely need more guns. You know, to shoot the things and combat the guns and destroy stuff.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

You should always have your gun on you and loaded, so it can be your first reaction whenever you’re scared

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

For all of the talk of "a good guy with a gun", it's happened like....twice?

[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

death of the local newspaper was bad for politics too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McClatchy

local news papers are owned by a big national mega news corp stifling real news

no local city council meeting news or any county council meeting news or anything other than propaganda about how well things are just look at this new restaurant that is opening up

hard to do grass roots and all that and have discussions when everyone is in the dark even about local happenings

both parties do what this article accuses

Biden and Obama had someone chained to a chair for wanting to do a debate like the demopublicans are allowed to do

https://www.democracynow.org/2012/10/17/green_partys_jill_stein_cheri_honkala

football or pakled like politics the other side with the other colored shirt and different letter are the problem and my helmet is not big enough never about anything substantial

Of course the president can not wave a magic wand but they still have the media could be saying things everyday that could help sway opinion such as abortion rights or anything

Catholic Biden definitely could have been bitching way more openly about this and other things he ran on

both sides doing the same thing but claiming their different excuses and makeup are better

end of politics in america was in part when the local papers got bought up which was pre2010

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