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submitted 11 months ago by iloverocks@feddit.de to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

I'm currently still using gmail unfortunately

Cock.li (airmail.cc)looks very nice but it is invite only

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[-] IrrerPolterer@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

Posteo.de - 100% renewable energy. Full industry standard encryption. No tracking, no adds. Annual transparency report. Supporting social and environmental efforts. Great treatment of their employees.

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[-] themachine@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Is self hosting a valid answer?

I host my own email.

[-] daq@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 11 months ago

Where do you host that's reasonably priced and still has an IP pool that isn't immediately blacklisted by Google, Yahoo and Microsoft?

[-] shrugal@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

I self host an email server at home with a 1€/month domain from strato.de, and I just use their SMTP server as relay. No issues so far, and they also include a backup mx for when my home server goes offline.

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[-] solitude@lemmy.one 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Proton (free - 1GB storage, 500MB before doing 4 "tasks") for family, friends, and business types uses, although I'd rather have an integrated calendar (instead of it being a separate app).

Tutanota (free - 1GB storage) for bills, purchases, etc., basically everything else, because I'm never going to say "my email is xxxxx@TUTAmail.com" to anyone I know, especially business acquaintances. So far, I like Tutanota more than Proton, especially the integrated calendar, but that name...... sounds like something my mother or grandparents were scammed into using.

On desktop, I'm currently using Thunderbird (TB) for a couple of older gmail accounts (in the process of transitioning away from), although I hate the recent update to TB. Haven't tried the Tutanota desktop app yet, but web version of email & calendar work adequately. Maybe I'll transition from TB now, after their recent changes.

Considered mailbox.org, but I'm not going to pay for it (no free version), especially when they don't at least have a cell app. Skiff may be worth looking at. Can't recall why I didn't try them.

EDIT: I've now installed Skiff (free - 10GB) as well and liking it so far. Using webmail seems easy and straight forward, cell app looks about the same (but haven't spent too much time on it yet). REALLY like that you basically get 4 email accounts (1 main and 3 alias account names), which is different than Tutanota and Proton. With the different aliases, this gives me an option to use Skiff for everything (if I choose to "put everything in one basket" at some point). Skiff sounds a little better than "Tuta" for business acquaintances as well, but not by much. No integrated calendar, but significantly larger storage is a plus.

[-] jmp242@sopuli.xyz 15 points 11 months ago

I use Fastmail - not too expensive, really good webmail client, has working shared calendar that isn't OWA, and isn't advertising scraping my e-mail. I would have liked a more private service, but back when I moved from self hosted to a service, that was about the best I could get that also had calendaring.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 14 points 11 months ago

Any email with cock in the name will trigger filtering. It also has the side effect of making me unemployable

[-] Father_Redbeard@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago

I tried Proton, even paid for a year. But hot damn the Android app is garbage. So I've moved to Fastmail and I like it a lot. The app is snappy and I love that it has calendar, contacts, mail, notes, and files storage all in the same app. I used a custom domain with Proton so wasn't hard to switch to a different provider. Just wish I would've known how bad the mobile app was before I plunked down the money.

[-] chaklun@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

They are rewriting android app from scratch rn

[-] Father_Redbeard@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

I've heard that. Boy does it need it. But I'll admit I don't like that their focus seems to be on introducing new products instead of making their existing lineup more reliable/performant. And not making many strides in the Linux world.

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[-] daq@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 11 months ago

Purely mail.

$10/year.

Every provider out there encrypts mail at rest. You're exchanging emails with Gmail, Yahoo or Hotmail anyway. Pretending like your email is any safer with Proton or clones is a waste of money imho.

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[-] gunpachi@lemmings.world 10 points 11 months ago

I use protonmail, simplelogin (for email aliases) and tutanota.

[-] oranki@sopuli.xyz 9 points 11 months ago

Protonmail, but not really because of encryption. I just liked their Android client and webmail the most. I've had sensitive backups on Proton Drive for a long time, so that also played a role in the choice.

I hosted my own server for quite a few years, but the SMTP clients (Thunderbird, Evolution, K9 mail) all doing things slightly differently made me give up. Biggest push was that K9 mail didn't really move deleted mail to trash. These were probably dovecot configuration issues, but I got tired of searching for solutions. Never had any deliverability issues.

[-] Platform27@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Tutanota. I used to use Proton, but they don’t encrypt folder names, which is a deal breaker. Tutanota does, and they’re also a privacy respecting, reputable, decent service.

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[-] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago

I'm in the process of migrating to Proton from Gmail and Outlook. All 4 mailboxes imported, now just the tedious job of updating credentials on all the websites remains...

[-] Kimusan@feddit.dk 5 points 11 months ago

Selfhosted mail-in-a-box solution. Easy to maintain and configure.

  • It just works
[-] cyberfae@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I use runbox. It costs money, but is affordable. They also take privacy and security seriously, and they take steps to help the environment when possible.

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[-] gilbert31@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I've been using ProtonMail for a while now and it works very well, they also offer a drive, calendar, password manager, VPN; you can choose if you want all the features or just email.

I also tried Tutanota and they do a good job as well, they're a smaller company and don't have as many features as Proton but if all you need is reliable, private e-mail, it's a good option.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 11 months ago

If I remember correctly cock.li is also hosting some really bad Nazi domains and has apparently no problem with that...

[-] darcy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

gmail because i love google!! nothing to hide, right?

edit: /s

[-] humancrayon@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Nothing to hide, but also nothing I want to share either…

[-] TooMuchVanced@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I use Tutanota I think it's a really good private email client.

[-] danie10@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Paid Proton Mail with my own domain name and own PGP keypair. Although it now has a way to securely search mail, I use the bridge service to allow Betterbird mail to sync my mail to my PC for searching.

[-] Catsrules@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

For privacy, I believe Proton Mail https://proton.me/mail has been the standard.

[-] kevincox@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

I switched to hosting my own inbound mail. I mostly switched because after trying a few providers they almost all dropped some email that I wanted (not Spam, completely dropped) so I set up my own. It is quite nice to have full control over configuration, filtering, backups and whatever else.

Right now I am using a paid rely to send, but maybe I'll see how my IP's reputation at some point.

[-] ACardboardRaven@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

ProtonMail because they're at the very least non-intrusive and don't have a track record of snooping through emails, google im looking at you mf

[-] derpgon@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Haven't seen his answer here yet, but I use Zoho. It has a free tier IIRC and supports custom domain.

Not sure how private it is, tho.

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