This is really hard for me but I have had to put my foot down in recent times. It still makes me uncomfortable but I just can’t support this anymore. If I’m sitting down at a restaurant with a server I tip 20 - 25% but I’m tired of tipping for takeout and I absolutely refuse to give extra when checking out at a store.

This is very occasionally popping up in restaurants in Australia. Whether you live here or travelling. Do not tip unless they did something incredible. I’m talking the fish brought your grandma back to life and the chef reconnected you with your long lost father. We don’t want to encourage tipping culture. We want to increase minimum wage. It’s like $23 now and we need that to keep growing with the economy.

Tipping culture is capitalists telling workers it's their fault for not making enough money. It's true though, because workers don't organize nearly enough to change the culture. People should stick up for themselves and their fellow employees and demand a better wage and benefits.

I recently had a pretty crappy experience at a restaurant for a few reasons, the last being their tipping system. You won't believe how they asked me to tip, it was mad.

1. There was no menu, I had to Google their name and find their website (which was some obscure subdomain on some obscure food payment site).
2. Their site didn't work in Chrome (on any of the phones we had with us), luckily I had a backup browser installed that worked.
3. I had to order and pay on my phone, unable to use the cash I had budgeted and brought with me for the meal.
4. It asked me how much I would like to tip, but this is paying DURING MY ORDER, when I had not yet received any service or food. I chose not to tip.

Tipping, here in the UK, is only something you do when you were very happy with the service (and have the extra cash you don't mind giving away as charity, basically). Our waiters, as with every worker in the country, are paid a real wage that isn't designed to be subsidised by begging.

So, being asked to tip for the good service BEFORE receiving the service? That's INSANE.

Due to the various ridiculous issues we had just trying to order food and pay for it, and the audacity of being asked to tip that way, I will not be going back there again.

What's wrong with the tried and true system of a waiter taking your order, you eat, they take your payment at the table either with a normal wireless chip-and-pin machine or by cash, and then you leave? It's simple, easy, smooth and fast 🤦‍♀️

I occasionally go to a liquor store where the till asks if you want to tip, and it's the most ridiculous thing ever because it's a small store and the clerk isn't helping you find shit.

Reminder for everyone that when there are efforts to change the system and have employers pay higher wages instead, the majority of workers are vehemently against it.

You'll see people in this thread telling you that it's not the workers' fault, and that taking it out on the workers by not tipping is not fair, as if they're victims of the system.

Most pressure to maintain the system (or add tips to new industries) comes from the workers, and I feel that not tipping is entirely appropriate if you want it to change.

When the workers themselves start clamoring for raising wages and getting rid of tipping culture, I will empathize with them more.

Not tomorrow either. Flashing that in front of me doesn't mean I'm tipping you for grabbing a donut 6feet away from you and putting it in a bag. That's literally your job. Charge me the amount it costs for the item and your labor don't try to prey on my charitabilty. I use those feelings to distribute the limited extra I have to give to research for sick kids, educational charities, housing initiatives, and anti-gun lobbyists. Fuck if you're anywhere near those categories donut slinger. Tell your boss to fuck himself for even putting that shit in front of customers.

It's getting ridiculous though like even gas stations are starting to ask. Like sorry why should I leave a tip to get a Snickers and bottle of water rung up?

I have no problem tipping wait staff or bartenders for the service, but I'll be damned if the cashier at my local Chinese restaurant is getting a tip because they handed me a bag of carryout food I ordered online... tipping has definitely gotten out of control.

What annoys me isn't that they ask for a tip, it's how much they ask. I'm willing to round up to the nearest dollar if the service was good, but those little iPads always seem to ask for at least 15%. I am not giving a 15% tip to someone who only pressed buttons on a tablet.

One more reason I would hate to live in America. In Britain we don't give tips.

I don't tip, but that's achieved by never doing anything where tipping is expected.

Over here in the UK we don't tip as a rule, unless we've been directly served by someone, and even then it's mostly just to leave whatever change there may be.

But it's become very fucking common for chain shops to ask if we want to round up to the nearest £ and donate that money to whichever charity they're working with.

And my answer is always, always, no.

Tipping culture is just a way that disproportionally affects workers in such a way that there should be a mathematical equation that compares titty size of the waitress to how much you will tip. Theres a reason why people think there is misandry in fields that require tipping. I try to not tip whenever I can unless I am friends with the people there. Why? Chances are, you get paid a minimum of 10+ an hour wage and you get pissy if I even think you didn't deserve that cherry on top. No I dont want to pay you more than I make an hour for serving my food. Its not up to me to decide how much you deserve for your efforts. Yes Ill be bitter, i dont care, i fucking hate tipping culture. Ill fight anyone that thinks otherwise... in a videogame of course.

Edit: also I want to give a shout out to BJs for being the most toxic environments for tipping. They only allow electronic payments on some proprietary website and it auto adds 20% and they cross their fingers hopeing you didnt see. Then it asks if you would want to tip ON TOP of that. If you bring it up to staff they will actually announce that you arent tipping. Like fuck you guys

Just another example on how easy it is to divide us and how the class war was lost long.. long... long ago.

What's even more fun are the places that ask for a tip... and the tip doesn't go to the employees.

everyone else in the restaurant:

I only tip dine in (if there is actually a server) and delivery.

Fast casual with no server or takeout/pickup I am no longer tipping

Jesus, there's a lot of hate for workers in this thread... 😬

Edit: I understand why employers do this, but the fact is they DO do it, and denying tips isn't going to make employers pay their workers more money. They only understand money, not sympathy, and all you're doing is taking away the employees' money, not theirs. If it's not hurting them, they're not going to raise wages because they simply don't care.

So while one stands there refusing to tip out of a (not entirely incorrect) philosophical viewpoint, those workers reliant on tips will be starving because without said tips they can't afford rent let alone food.

In other words, I agree with the general logic behind the conclusion but not the specific logic.

TL;DR:

Making the employers pay the employees more money? Great!

Attempting to do it by hurting the employees but not the employer? Not so great!

I think I'm in the smallest minority, but I haven't tipped in close to a decade. When people ask me why, I answer with the question "when was the last time you tipped your grocer l, fast food window attendant or the person at the hardware store that brought out your 100lbs of lumber? " answer is always never and I say exactly.

My local vape shop has started asking for tips when you pay now. I'm definitely not tipping for a D8 cart that's already 20% more expensive than buying it online from the makers.

Me, reaching over from the POS side paying for the transaction I'm ringing up, leaving no tip for myself

It gets easier the more you do it. Don't feel bad for not giving away the money you own.