It's true! Trump hasn't sent the army after anyone! Just ICE, CBP, and the National Guard!
don't forget the Marines in Los Angeles
PolitiFact | Trump said that Gov. Tim Walz didn’t call in the National Guard in 2020. Walz’s order shows he did.
Tim Walz signed an executive order May 28, 2020, calling up the Minnesota National Guard to respond to riots
oh no, anyway
Shame a lot of them just refuse/are too scared to ever recognize it. The rest of us suffer for it.
Easier to trick someone than convince them they've been tricked.
I don't understand why people can't understand that multiple things can be true.
Someone can have voted for Harris, donated to her campaign, preferred her to be president, felt that personally their own lives would have been better if Harris were president, and also be disgusted that Harris is pro-genocide.
Centrists will never understand this.
They also cannot understand that someone can say something centrists want is a losing issue and still be willing to vote for a centrist candidate, while being able to notice that they're gonna lose if they keep it up.
Also explains the reaction to Mamdani. Centrists didn't get the sex pest they wanted and went from "blue no matter who" to "party unity my ass" immediately. No progressive legislators badmouthed harris like gillibrand did with her disgusting Islamophobic attacks against Mamdani.
Centrists think everyone is like they are, inasmuch as they don't believe at all in their stated principles and will vote third party if they don't get their very first choice. We saw this in 2008 as well when they formed a fucking PAC to elect mccain because they didn't want to vote for a black man. For all the blame they throw at the left for 2016 and 2024, progressives never formed a PAC to elect trump. But if Sanders had won the nomination in 2016 or 2020, I have no doubt that we would have seen centrists campaigning for trump like we saw them campaigning for cuomo and mccain.
Yeah, it was pretty simple for anyone capable of making decisions without deferring entirely to their feelings.
The stats prove Dems are better for our economy (and rights). We were coming off a legislatively successful Democrat presidency. Serious strides were made for the working class and we were recovering from the pandemic better than any other 1st world nation. The Dem candidate was a career prosecutor with a doctorate in law.
On the other hand we had the side that the stats show are awful for our economy (and war). The candidate was an already failed president with two impeachments and an insurrection under his belt. With a doctorate in nothing but dipshittery.
You have to be pretty stupid to NOT go with option 1, including by staying home or voting for a 3rd party candidate with absolutely ZERO possibility of winning. Regardless of whether you're mad that they're maintining an allegiance with a foreign nation you aren't exactly happy with. Foreign affairs aren't exactly simple. Especially with an ally you want to keep for their strategic geopolitical position.
But, as we've learned, most Americans prefer to think with their feelings instead of their intellect. And now gestures broadly.
I just don't see how things are going to get better with a nation full of people this dumb.
probably the part where she doesn't care that people are disgusted by her being pro-genocide
There would be no ice raids like this all over the country. No tarrifs. No allies lost due to insults and threats. No threats against lgbtq+, no concentration camps for immigrants(or no newer ones from bidens term. No loss of Nato. No that of nuclear proliferation. Stronger Ukraine. And less support for Israel and more support for Palestine though obviously not to the level needed.
It's like being ok with Hitler because ~~MacArthur~~ Churchill hated Indians.
And less support for Israel and more support for Palestine though obviously not to the level needed.
You don't know that. Regardless, I guess this all could have been avoided had Harris not alienated her own constituency by playing a game of Who's the bigger narcissist.
If they can adopt and make bipartisan the entirety of Trump Term 1 and support genocide without any electoral liability, what will you not approve of? This means that any opposition to literal genocide or authoritarianism is only justified if it is the Red team doing it. If Democrats do it, they are definitionally the lesser evil, so they should be supported in genocide since Republicans also would do it.
Also, kicker, Trump forced Israel into two ceasefires that reduced the killing, despite it not actually being a stop to the genocide since Israel is still restricting aid and killing at a slower pace. But that literally means Trump is less genocidal on that one issue that Biden/Harris. The bar is on the floor and they still fail!
It's pretty easy to understand. The people who don't get it are the ones who are only capable of one-dimensional thought. They can't hold multiple, complex beliefs, so they assume you can't either.
Yeah but she loved the genoside, that’s why we have to have utter incompetent apocalypse every goddamned day for three more years.
and also still have the same genocide happening, plus even more acts of war to boot
I'd argue a worse genocide.
Dems were stuck on "but but Israel is an ally" and tried to gently suggest that they stop. But Biden did take some action. The US even built a port to send in aid. Now obviously we had the power to stop sending Israel money and supporting them. That's where they failed.
Trump however just said good work and keep it up. He's encouraged Israel to go faster and joked about how great the strip will be once it's freely developed real estate.
So yeah, one of these is clearly a worse option
And the wholesale destruction of USAID and PEPFAR means people are simultaneously starving to death in chunks of the world, not getting vaccines, and also not getting HIV prevention meds, which means long term, HIV infection is going to increase worldwide over time. That is going to be a massive, silent genocide that will be orders of magnitude worse, but largely undocumented.
That was a serious, serious fuckup on voters parts. Not to mention massive cuts to everyday things like critical medical R&D, science R&D, disaster preparedness, NASA, department of education, PBS and Corp for public broadcasting, department of health, FDA + food safety programs, and many other programs that people take for granted without thinking (housing grants for home buying, federal student loans, food stamps, weather prediction for natural disasters, Medicare/ACA/Medicaid, etc)
His cuts to the IRS are going to result in less money for shit like bridges, roads, and electrical grids too.
But Biden did take some action.
Yes, he took the action of sending them even more weapons than what congress had appropriated.
The US even built a port to send in aid.
They built a port and when Israel told them the exact same thing they told everyone else, that they wouldn't allow aid, they closed the port, accomplishing nothing in a way that was extremely predicable. It never had any purpose other than scoring political points. They got month of pretending it was going to do something out of it, and people like you are still citing it.
Yes, he took the action of sending them even more weapons than what congress had appropriated.
Thank goodness Trump stopped that, oh wait
Also you ever notice that people barely talk about the genocide anymore?
We know there's no way to change Trump's opinion on Palestine, and now we are fully focused on stopping him from starting new wars or sending ICE around the country to murder dissenters. Those that cared now have to focus on pressing domestic issues. If Kamala was president we'd still be focused on ending the genocide and there was at least a chance there would have been an end or progress, but now the current trajectory is the genocide will not be stopped and we'll probably not have elections again
Purists couldn't vote for the lesser of two evils. The choice was: vote for genocide or vote for genocide+even more horrible shit. Somehow genocide+even more horrible shit seemed more appealing.
There was this whole argument that vote for genocide or vote for genocide+even more horrible shit was going to turn people off from voting. We now know that definitely happened. Letting that choice run was a pretty guaranteed losing strategy. Anyone with knowledge of American electoral politics knows voter turnoff = Democratic Loss, Republican Victory.
Kamala ran a horrible campaign. Blaming voters isnt the way
Oh god no. No no no no NO
No, fuck that right off.
The voters ARE too blame.
I mean, yeah, I would agree with you if tRUMP had never been in office before AND was somewhat competent in his business dealings, or wasn't obviously in the pocket of putin.
However, that orange thing did a terrible job in his first term, just terrible. And anyone with even the slightest resemblance of intelligence could see he was only running again to stop the court cases, etc, and buy more time to keep him out of prison.
It really didn't/doesn't matter about her campaign when the person running against her is obviously:
Was wholly incompetent just a few years before.
Racist.
Said he was going to be a dictator from the first day.
Is a confirmed rapist. With loads of other assault cases behind him.
Best friend to Jeffery Epstein who they both said enjoyed "wonderful secrets" together...
Convicted criminal.
Numerous bankruptcies.
Numerous fines for dodgy shit (stealing from children's charities etc)
Russian money etc etc.
Quite obviously corrupt in just about every way. Etc etc etc etc etc.
These are the things off the top of my head, there's hundreds of other shit he's pulled.
So, YES, it was down to all the voters.
Yes, his voters are definitely to blame. But everyone who could vote but didn't, or protest voted have also enabled this shit to happen so they are to definitely, definitely to blame.
Any people who could have voted against him but didn't and are now trying to absolve themselves of any guilt then let me help you out. You won't, you can't. You are to blame.
The problem wasn't Kamala or Trump. That's something coming from decades ago. The real problem is a party system where one of the parties wants to go full throttle to the right and the other party just wants to go slower. That's a recipe for disaster. Imagine if the Dems had elected Sanders instead of Hillary on the primaries. Trump wouldn't had have a change in hell to be elected and the policies would have steered the country to the left.
Instead we resumed the sale of 2000 pound bombs to Israel and found some new countries to bomb. That and the population of Gaza is still dying just after the election the bots seemed to stop caring.
Why did she spend so much time courting Republicans? It's a mystery
Was it was the billion dollars she "raised" in a few months? Trump raised about 900 million in four years, she raised a billion in months. Unprecedented.
Standard US political wisdom reveals that neither D (30%) or Rs (30%) can win an election without Independent voters (40% of voters). So, you need to have an independent issue or three to get enough votes to win.
Kamala only spent a few months, and she spent a lot of it on Republicans (various articles about this before election, Politico, Hill). The math doesn't work, that's not how you win elections. That's not how anyone wins elections. It would have been unprecedented for her to win, also.
I think she took a knee, if you can come up with another reason I would love to hear it, for real. This is very disturbing to me and I wish I had never come to this conclusion, but can think of no other reason.
Why did she spend so much time courting Republicans? It's a mystery
Not a mystery. That's what the overpriced consultants the DNC hired told them to do. They said to stop using the slogan never back and told Tim Walz to stop calling Trump and Vance weird.
Which is weird in and of itself because that was working
Exactly. But, you don't get paid to say, keep doing what you're doing.
Dems should be courting the “non voters”. They are 30% of the electorate, and you’re not going to change a Trump supporter’s mind.
Well, Schumer and Jeffries are refusing to reduce ICE funding or oppose them, so we are still in the point that the Dems support everything but would like a bit more politeness and layers of obfuscation, rather than ICE not killing people in the streets and being the American Gestapo.
Kamala: "If you don't vote for me, Trump will send in the military."
Also Kamala: "I will ensure America always has the strongest, most lethal fighting force in the world."
In his 2022 National Defense Strategy, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin laid out five key traits of America’s “future force.” The first among them: “Lethal.”
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In 2017, then-Army Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Milley said his “Modernization Priorities for the United States Army” had “one simple focus: make Soldiers and units more lethal.”
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In discussing the 2024 Pentagon budget request, Deputy Defense Secretary Kathleen H. Hicks said the funding would deliver “combat-credible joint forces that are the most lethal, resilient, survivable, agile and responsive in the world.”
Well... y'all got what you voted for, I guess.
Funding the military to fight outside the US is literally the same thing as using the military to round of civilians!
Great contribution to the discussion.
The imperial boomerang is the concept that repressive techniques to control colonial territories by governments will eventually deploy those same techniques domestically against their own citizens. This concept originates with Aimé Césaire in his 1950 work Discourse on Colonialism, where it is called the terrific boomerang to explain the origins of European fascism in the first half of the 20th century. Hannah Arendt agreed with this usage, calling it the boomerang effect in The Origins of Totalitarianism (1951).
...yes, actually, it is.
Are the lives of Americans inherently more valuable than the lives of civilians in other countries?
Modernizing the military to be more lethal and potentially more efficient isn't the same as starting a civil war sending the military into American cities.
Did someone print this out and leave it in the sun before linking it here?
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