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Known as the "2026 Billionaire Tax Act," the initiative proposes a one-time 5% wealth tax on California's billionaires, payable over five years. 90% of the tax revenue would be used to offset the $100 billion (€85.7 billion) in budget cuts imposed by the "One Big Beautiful Bill," the budget law that the United States Congress passed in July 2025, under the auspices of President Donald Trump. The remaining 10% would go to food assistance programs and public education, which is in a curiously dire situation for such a wealthy state.

The ballot initiative is still just a proposal: It has not yet received the 874,000 signatures required for it to be put to a vote by Californians in November, and the state's Democratic governor, Gavin Newsom, does not support it. Nevertheless, the initiative has threatened to drive the Silicon Valley billionaires out of the state.

The initiative has resulted in panic among the billionaires. According to the press, the biggest names in Silicon Valley all took steps to move before December 31, 2025, to minimize their exposure to the tax, which would be calculated retroactively, back to January 1. Larry Page (with a net worth of $276 billion), one of Google's founders, had his holding company move its headquarters to the tax-friendly East Coast state of Delaware, relocate three of its companies to Florida and purchased two homes in Miami, for $173 million. Larry Ellison (net worth $245 billion), cofounder of Oracle, sold his $45 million home in the hills above San Francisco, though he had already moved his tax residence to Hawaii in 2020, just like Elon Musk (head of the social media platform X and Tesla), who relocated to Texas. Meanwhile, Peter Thiel, cofounder of PayPal and Palantir Technologies, who is worth $26 billion, has increased his presence in Florida.

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[-] PineRune@lemmy.world 74 points 1 month ago

I don't know, if I had the money to buy two Miami homes, entirely move three operating businesses and relocate a company's headquarters, I wouldn't be worrying about losing 1/20th of my income over 5 years. Which really costs more? It's almost as if they're doing this out of spite instead of saving money.

[-] GardenGeek@europe.pub 48 points 1 month ago

,,You let one ant stand up to us, then they all might stand up."

It's not about the money, it's about sending a message...

[-] fonix232@fedia.io 27 points 1 month ago

They're not going to move.

Billionaires always threaten this, thinking their bluff would work. It's pure scare tactics.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The billionaire farmers that own all the pistachio farms in california aren't going to pick up and leave.

Its fully nonsense and the Massachusetts wealth tax is proof: they had a large increase in wealthy individuals after the wealth tax was passed. Turns out rich people will lie to save money.

[-] FishFace@piefed.social 16 points 1 month ago

Not income, wealth.

Are they actually talking about relocating businesses, rather than just their homes?

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago

The article is making some very broad assumptions by treating any of these moves as being directly connected to the proposed tax. Wealthy people do shit like this all the time.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago

They weren't paying taxes before so what difference does it make

[-] GardenGeek@europe.pub 35 points 1 month ago

I have the same question: If they refuse to contribute to their community and/or to the absolute legal minimum they can't find a loophole for... what's the point of wanting to make them stay?

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago

All that lost revenue for escorts and coke dealers?

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

I remember years ago when i first heard of Newsome i thought he seemed decent. The fact he's against this bill is further evidence that i was mistaken.

[-] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 32 points 1 month ago

Just remember that newsom is the epitome of the neoliberal. He is perfectly willing to throw any supposed principles under the bus to gather support and votes. Just look up his publicly made remarks on gender dysphoric folks, his vetoes, and his bootlicking of billionaires.

[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

A) Bullshit. None of them have actually left yet. One is moving some companies' headquarters. Another already moved 6 years ago. The third is just "increasing his presence."

B) This isn't even past the ballot proposal signature phase yet. Even if they did/do move, it has nothing to do with this tax.

C) This is 3 out of 255.

D) They don't fucking pay taxes ANYWAY. We have lost nothing of value.

E) Good. Leave. Fewer people driving up costs in my state.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A. Extensive tax data shows the wealthy don't leave because of taxes. They stay because of the environment taxes provide, and pay people like me to reduce their tax liability to nil

[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 month ago

Thieves running away in the middle of the night.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago

Larry Page (with a net worth of $276 billion), one of Google's founders, had his holding company move its headquarters to the tax-friendly East Coast state of Delaware, relocate three of its companies to Florida and purchased two homes in Miami, for $173 million. Larry Ellison (net worth $245 billion), cofounder of Oracle, sold his $45 million home in the hills above San Francisco, though he had already moved his tax residence to Hawaii in 2020, just like Elon Musk (head of the social media platform X and Tesla), who relocated to Texas. Meanwhile, Peter Thiel, cofounder of PayPal and Palantir Technologies, who is worth $26 billion, has increased his presence in Florida.

So your headline is a lie?

One billionaire did some paperwork. He didn't even leave, he literally just moved some assets around on paper.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 month ago

Ballot measure that is literally just still a proposal at this point. Jesus, the titles are so dumb. Show me all the Billionaires leaving New York after Mamdani won. Oh, right, they didn't.

California Dems are such shitheads that even if this was voted for Newsom would just veto the will of the people again.

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Agreed. Fuck Newsome, who will likely be the Dem candidate in 2028 (in the off-chance that we still have elections)

[-] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

I hope there's a stipulation that if you ever come back, the same amount is due as a lump sum.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 11 points 1 month ago

Lol this paints such an overblown and bizarre image like...

"Oh no! All the billionaires in Cali are fleeing a 5% wealth tax! Silicon Valley and Hollywood announced they're moving to Kentucky now. That'll show you!" 😂

[-] one_step_behind@quokk.au 7 points 1 month ago

And in reality it's one billionaire.

[-] a_good_hunter@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

No, they do not.

[-] notaviking@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Sounds like California gave these billionaires financial incentive to leave.

Maybe that will solve the high cost of living issues there

[-] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

It won't unfortunately.

The issue as far as I've seen hasn't been billionaires owning multi-million dollar houses, but more different parties buying houses and sitting on them for investing.

[-] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 5 points 1 month ago

And a very large amount of nimbyism and zoning for residential areas. Capitalism has so many ways to attack the common man's wallet.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Zoning laws and parking minimums do a lot of damage to low income people by reducing population density in areas and restricting key services to car owners.

I mean, I really don't see the problem here. So they move somewhere else. That costs money. And generally you're hiring lower class workers. So... There's still money being transferred down.

Good fucking riddance, tbh

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

https://www.capecodtimes.com/story/news/2025/05/01/how-many-millionaires-tax-massachusetts-report-wealth/83370445007/

The rich only leave because of homeless people, not taxes. If all the dumfuck politicians just built housing for people and taxed the rich we could stop merry go round of bullshit.

[-] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Expecting financially savy individuals to just pay a tax instead of using 'state of residency' clauses to avoid it, is like thinking internet filters will stop people from accessing banned websites.

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