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[-] Lydia_K@lemmy.world 267 points 6 months ago

Hell yeah, the Black Panthers are exactly the heroes we need right now.

[-] Cowbee_Admirer@reddthat.com 32 points 6 months ago

Agreed! Just to remind everyone, from Wikipedia:

The Black Panther Party (originally the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense) was an American far-left, Marxist–Leninist and black power political organization

Marxism-Leninism offers answers to the literal problems we're living today. Organize and read!!

[-] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 169 points 6 months ago

Good. I'm willing to bet jackbooted thugs are less likely to shoot someone when there's a visibly armed protestor nearby.

[-] Clusterfck@lemmy.sdf.org 70 points 6 months ago

I’m not sure if it’s crazier that statement was made or the fact that I read it and agreed with it before I even thought how crazy of a time this is.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 53 points 6 months ago
[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago
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[-] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

Hard agree on that front. The world is absolutely crazypants batshit right now.

[-] huppakee@piefed.social 8 points 6 months ago

A specific part more than others though

[-] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Sure, if you don't count the unrest in Iran, the ongoing invasion of Ukraine, the Chinese genocide of the Uyghurs, the Israeli genocide in Gaza, etc etc etc

Then sure, the world is a rosy and wonderful place other than the US.

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[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago

If it makes it any better this has happened repeatedly historically. Though it only really works when the ones you're protesting against are gormless cowards, so it should be rather effective.

[-] scaredoftrumpwinning@lemmy.world 50 points 6 months ago

Think of a bully if someone stronger stands up to them they will run a way. I would like to see vets, blank panthers and others stand and protect the protesters. Having black panthers and vets unite for one common cause would send a powerful message.

[-] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Not specifically for vets, but the Iron Front is very popular with a lot of the antifascist vets I know, including myself.

https://www.ironfrontusa.org/

Edit - The Sons of Liberty are specifically a vet organization

https://linktr.ee/officialsonsofliberty

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[-] luciferofastora@feddit.org 95 points 6 months ago

Remember: Peaceful protests are like barking - annoying, but by itself harmless. It's the fear of the bite that makes the barking scary.

You don't have to jump straight to violence, and I believe that it's more effective to start with non-violent demands. Once you escalate, there's nowhere left to go. But the threat of it is what makes the peaceful option less destructive.

As the saying goes: Nothing will meaningfully change until the rich fear for their lives.

[-] Eternalposer@lemmy.zip 33 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"Power concedes nothing without a demand." -Fredrick Douglas

[-] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 months ago

The only way to tell if your protests are working is if the state is restoring to violence to stop you from continuing to demonstrate.

The only way protests are ultimately effective is for the beleaguered group to be easier to negotiate with then it is to further supress them with violence.

The powerful give no ground willingly. It must be taken from them.

[-] EldritchFeminity 13 points 6 months ago

Unions are the peaceful alternative for negotiations that workers and their bosses agreed upon instead of dragging them out of the factory into the street and beating them to death.

More people need to remember this history.

Even MLK credited the success of his work during the Civil Rights Movement to the Black Panthers being willing to do what he could not, and the Million Man March on Washington - seen today as an example of successful peaceful protest - was a threat to every white American in a seat of power. If he could mobilize a million people to shut down the capital of the federal government peacefully, imagine what else they could do.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 74 points 6 months ago

This is so surreal.

It's like opening up your browser to be reading about The Weather Underground or the SDS or something....but then again, about 20 years ago, I don't think I was thinking we'd have a Nazi sympathizer in the fucking White House, either, so I also thought Nazis were largely a part of history that would stay in the past.

[-] 3abas@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago

Operation Paperclip. You've had multiple Nazis in the white house, the last one repeatedly lied about seeing 40 beheaded children to justify funding and shielding a genocide.

Trump is just the first fascist Nazi. But America has been totally fine synopsizing with Nazis.

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[-] Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

Weather Underground is just a distributed/crowd sourced weather app now full of individual weather stations. I love it both in function and name.

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[-] gerowen@piefed.social 67 points 6 months ago

How much you wanna bet certain conservative people start talking about gun control, or imposing restrictions on being armed at protests or something?

[-] lemming741@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

I don't know if you're being rhetorical, but that is the pattern

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

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[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 65 points 6 months ago

good for them

when somebody on the right says "this is just asking for trouble", tell them that Kyle Rittenhouse went there to defend businesses (not even people) and they approved of his actions, and so they can shut the fuck up

[-] BeardededSquidward 49 points 6 months ago

Don't even try to give them an argument, tell them to shut the fuck up. Never give them validity to their bullshit arguments.

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 21 points 6 months ago

The best argument against people who argue in bad faith is "I don't care" and move on.

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[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 63 points 6 months ago

Good to see others getting armed.

[-] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 46 points 6 months ago

I understand black Panthers or for blacks folks. But it's it also open to other folks like Hispanics?

There's a lot of vets that are Hispanic that could and would help, but again I understand if this is only a black folks only thing.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 72 points 6 months ago

The real Black Panthers? They would... probably still prefer it to be a sister org to focus on the African American community but they would very much be allies.

These Black Panthers? Who the hell knows?

Because the thing people forget is that the reason The Black Panthers were so effective wasn't because they were walking around locked and loaded. It was because of all the community outreach they did. So when the (white) cops and government came knocking? The neighborhoods locked arms because these were people who had been protecting them and who cared about them.

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[-] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 53 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Hispanic protestors used to have the Young Lords and the Brown Berets, who the Panthers have partnered with in the past.

Both, as far as I know, are no longer active, but I'm sure there would be support for reviving them today.

[-] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

Wow I did not know that. Thank you for providing some info about it.

[-] TwiddleTwaddle 14 points 6 months ago

There was also the White Panther Party back in the 60s-70's formed mostly of white college kids following the Panther model. Essentially a more explicitly revolutionary alternative to SNCC, which was itself highly influential in the anti-war movement at the time.

These days there are several Panther groups doing smaller scale community self defence and mutual aid across the country, many of them led by second and third generation Black Panthers.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Wasn't MC5 part of the White Panthers?

When people talk about "the boomers" as one big monolith, I have to chuckle because they are clearly overlooking things like this...

[-] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

MC5 kickout the jams band? Did not know that.

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[-] TwiddleTwaddle 9 points 6 months ago

The United Panther Party is another small modern Panther org. The UPP is mixed and Anarcho-Pantherist in political philosophy.

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[-] MBech@feddit.dk 38 points 6 months ago

Fuck yes! Show them something more than a sign saying "I'm not very happy about the current state of affairs. Sorry"!

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[-] Aubmaire@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

about fucking time

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 27 points 6 months ago

Hey, my city is on Lemmy!

wait... shit... my city is in the news...

shit's about to go down... 👀

[-] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 6 months ago

We need more self-defense (or community defense) now more than ever. For Renee Nicole Good.

[-] scttgard@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Just remember how scared and violent the Philidelphia police got when they felt threatened by the Black Panthers in the 80's. The MOVE bombing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing

[-] duncan_bayne@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Historically, angry Marxist-Leninists with guns have been very useful allies in dealing with NAZIs! But history suggests that things didn't work out too well afterwards, for those ruled by the angry Marxist-Leninists with guns ...

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[-] Cowbee_Admirer@reddthat.com 17 points 6 months ago

Reminder to everyone that the hugely successful and wonderful original Black Panther Party were considered "authoritarian" and "violent" by the majority of whites back in the day. The Black Panthers were OG Tankies in every sense of the word, and they were incredibly good as a consequence. From Wikipedia:

The Black Panther Party (originally the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense) was an American far-leftMarxist–Leninist and black power political organization founded by college students Bobby Seale and Huey P. Newton in October 1966

Regarding a visit of Huey P. Newton to China:

During the trip, the Chinese arranged for him to meet and have dinner with an ambassador from North Korea, an ambassador from Tanzania, and delegations from both North Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government of South Vietnam.[44] Newton was under the impression he was going to meet Mao Zedong, chairman of the Chinese Communist Party, but instead had two meetings with Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai. One of these meetings also included Mao's wife Jiang Qing. Newton described China as "a free and liberated territory with a socialist government"

THESE are the people that we disregard and insult and call "tankies"!!

[-] 800XL@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

Oh damn, this is not a headline I thought I'd see

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[-] toppy@lemy.lol 13 points 6 months ago

The black panther party needs to come back again. USA needs a revolution.

[-] sidelove@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago
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