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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by otter@lemmy.ca to c/main@lemmy.ca

Link: https://survey.fedecan.ca//s/cmjcnqzgd0002th01dh6naqm6


The census will close on January 15th, 2026.

A lot has changed since our last census in 2023! We would like to take another opportunity to learn about our growing community.

Everyone is welcome to fill out this survey. You do not need to be located in Canada, and you do not need to have an account on one of our platforms. If you do have an account on lemmy.ca, sh.itjust.works, piefed.ca, and/or pixelfed.ca, you can indicate that on the census in order to be included in those separate graphs/visualizations.

No question is mandatory. You may skip any question by either selecting β€œno answer (skip this question)”, or by leaving the question blank. Some questions will be hidden depending on your selections. For example, the Pixelfed specific questions will be hidden if you don't select that as one of the platforms you use.

Sections:

  • Section 1: Location
  • Section 2: Demographics
  • Section 3a: Instance Usage (Forum/Threadiverse)
  • Section 3b: Instance Usage (Pixelfed)
  • Section 4: Feedback / Closing questions

When results are ready, we will share them on our website and with posts on:

The questions were created with help from @Dave@lemmy.nz, based on the questions from their census this year :)

EDIT: We've made the links unclickable (see comments). The census is long, so I didn't want people to lose their progress near the end. The links are here:

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[-] Greg@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 months ago

As an immigrant to Canada, I wasn't sure how to answer the "where are you from?" question. I consider myself Canadian but when someone asks where I'm from I assume they've picked up on my accent and are asking where my accent is from. So I answered as though I had been asked IRL. I hope that doesn't skew the results.

[-] Cheesus@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

I also wasn't sure how to answer, as a Canadian who lives abroad.

[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

As an immigrant Canadian who now lives abroad, I also had a hard time answering that question.

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago

So this was actually intentional, and @Dave@lemmy.nz and I discussed how we could word it in order to let people pick the option that made the most sense to them.

I think a lot of people are in a similar situation as you, and would be making a similar choice

[-] Greg@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

Great, that means I got the answer right 😁

[-] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

if this is for metrics/charts and whatnot, wouldn't having questions be very clear and concise be better then people answering it based on their own personal idea of what is being asked?

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

In Toronto, the question "Where are you from?" typically means what's your country of origin. If you respond with "Canada" cause you've lived here for a long time, it's often followed up with "Oh yes, but where are you really from?" In vaccuum that all sounds a bit problematic but in TO more than half of the population is foreign-born so it's an acceptable request for multicultural exchange. πŸ˜…

[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

In Toronto, the "Where are you from?" Question is also correctly responded to with your neighbourhood or nearest major intersection. E.g. Danforth and Pape.

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Not an immigrant. Born Canadian with a Scottish last name. I have no Scottish culture in my life, just Canadian culture. Where I'm from: Canada. What is my ethnicity: Scottish. I think.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 months ago

FYI you can enter negative family members

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago

Ah

We will do some data cleaning afterwards

[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

-3 kids. I have had three abortions. Two conventional, one in the 32nd trimester.

[-] howrar@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago

Just so you know, when you click the speed test link, it opens it in the same page as the survey and you lose your progress on the survey.

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Good to know, we just added some warnings about it. We're trying out FormBricks for the first time with this survey, and this is one of the issues we'll need to look into

edit: We've made the links unclickable in the meantime. The census is long, so I didn't want people to lose their progress near the end. The links are here:

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

In this context, I always open links in a new tab because it's quite a common issue with survey software.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

I want to see Linux desktop usage above 6%. Elbows up πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

[-] INeedMana@piefed.zip 3 points 1 month ago

I'm pretty sure it will be much higher here

[-] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

Done πŸ‘

[-] recentSlinky@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

Done!

Although for the "where are you from" question, similar to others who commented, it's not entirely true but it is how i see myself, so it is true enough to me.

I'm an immigrant but i think of myself as Canadian first. And i call my home Quebec even though I'm currently studying in another province for the time being.

[-] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Info got way too deep and personal only a few pages in, can't see a reason you need that info even if I select chose not to answer so just closed the survey.

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's fair!

can't see a reason you need that info

We don't need it :)

Since the community on the fediverse is smaller than other social media platforms, the main goal of the census has been to create some graphs that people can look at. Since Lemmy (and Fediverse platforms in general) avoids collecting any data that isn't necessary for basic functionality, the census allows people to voluntarily share what they want to.

For example, when we first ran the census, we saw that the average user here is indeed older than on other platforms. Or how we have more users from British Columbia than we would expect based on population.

Then over time we adjusted the questions, and generally added more questions based on feedback that people were curious about more areas.

You can see some of those posts here:

https://lemmy.ca/search?q=census&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=2&page=1&sort=New&titleOnly=true

I can also understand that people are generally cautious about giving out information these days, and we're always open to adjusting things based on feedback. Maybe we can add a question near the beginning to let people choose which sections to display?

[-] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

I'm doing MY part! o7

[-] squirrel@piefed.kobel.fyi 6 points 2 months ago

Would it be okay to share this on !fediverse@lemmy.world? I know everyone is welcome, but this isn't "the threadiverse census" so I'm wondering if sharing it there would dilute the scope too much.

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

Definitely! I meant to cross post it and didn't get around to it

I'll share it on !fediverse@lemmy.world and maybe !lemmyapps@lemmy.world in a moment, feel free to share it wherever you want to :)

[-] squirrel@piefed.kobel.fyi 6 points 2 months ago

Nice, thank you.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago
[-] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

The site seems broken for me, clicking next after the first question does nothing.

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Do you have any privacy settings / extensions that might be causing it? I'm seeing results come in from other people

[-] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Just the defaults, same thing happens in firefox and chrome, though all three are webkit based.

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

If you can open the console, are there any error messages? I found this old (closed) issue on their GitHub that sounds similar. If you get an error message, that might help us investigate what's happening.

https://github.com/formbricks/formbricks/issues/964

Otherwise if you're comfortable with us being able to associate your lemmy account with your responses, I can DM you the questions for you to fill out manually, then mix them into the final result :)

[-] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

This only happens on mobile, so I can’t really check the console.

I just went ahead and filled it on my computer instead.

[-] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Two issues:

  1. You can choose all answers on multiple choice questions, including choices that are mutually exclusive.
  2. a lack of definitions of terms. Is a town with 150 people "urban" because you have a street address and most people don't work in another town/city, is it "suburban" because you need to go to a different town to buy groceries, or is it "rural" because that's how most people who live there self-identify?
[-] otter@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

You can choose all answers on multiple choice questions, including choices that are mutually exclusive.

I'll have to add that to my review checklist for next time. At least one of those was an error (ex. It doesn't make sense to be in multiple levels of school currently). For others, it would be clearer to have a single selection with an option for "both about equally" (ex. Desktop vs. mobile usage).

a lack of definitions of terms. Is a town with 150 people "urban" because you have a street address and most people don't work in another town/city, is it "suburban" because you need to go to a different town to buy groceries, or is it "rural" because that's how most people who live there self-identify?

Many of those questions are intended to be self-identification, but we could have said that explicitly so that people aren't uncertain. The reasons we didn't have set definitions:

  • People disagree on which definition/method is most appropriate, and we haven't had the capacity to properly weigh the options / determine what value each definition might provide over the others.
  • It seems that people are more curious about the self-identified groupings than the exact details. Both factor in to what the online experience is like, but the self-identification would play a larger role?
  • Privacy. We want people to feel comfortable answering questions, without worrying that someone will figure out their real identity by aggregating the answers. It's much harder to do that if it's uncertain on why the user answered the way that they did.

Still, we are open to adding definitions to questions where it would make more sense to do so. For example, we added the fast.com and census/gov Canada links this time. Otherwise we can explicitly say that users should answer based on self-identification.

I appreciate the feedback! I've noted this down for next time

[-] apprehensively_human@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

a lack of definitions of terms. Is a town with 150 people "urban" because you have a street address and most people don't work in another town/city, is it "suburban" because you need to go to a different town to buy groceries, or is it "rural" because that's how most people who live there self-identify?

The question asked how you would describe your community, but I would call my entire city my community which has a mix of all three options. My house is single-family detached but sits in an urban area, but there's a suburb right across the street from me.

[-] fosho@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago
[-] INeedMana@piefed.zip 1 points 1 month ago

I don't mean to rush anyone but I'm curious about results. Any estimate when those will be posted?

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Realistically, maybe a few weeks or a month minimum πŸ˜„

Right now the plan is:

  • cleaning up the data (removing rows that are clearly errors, tests, or duplicate submissions)
  • figuring out the best ways to graph each question
  • cleaning individual data rows into a format that's easy to graph
  • generating some basic image graphs

Then once we post those, we want to have the interactive version on our site as well. We'll be working through all that during off hours from work / other life tasks

If you have a specific question you want to know the results for, I can give you an approximate breakdown sooner. I assume the data won't change significantly during the cleaning, most of the responses look legitimate

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