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[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 101 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I genuinely can't imagine how this pedophile billionaire could sound more out-of-touch and apathetic. Anyone who still approves of him is a fucking idiot.

[-] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 28 points 2 months ago

That’s the point. He’s not talking about himself or his fellow swampdwellers. He’s talking about the plebs, who will have to get used to having less while working harder - because Trump and his oligarch buddies have taken it all.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Trump and his oligarch buddies have taken it all.

And they demand MORE.

[-] Zombie@feddit.uk 21 points 2 months ago

Anyone who still approves of him is a fucking idiot.

🌏 🧑‍🚀🔫

Always has been.

[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 91 points 2 months ago

No, it's the America you lot voted for.

How's it feel being great again?

[-] kieron115@startrek.website 39 points 2 months ago

I voted for Kamala Harris. Before that I would have voted for Bernie Sanders.

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Kamala Harris targeted Republican women for a good portion of her campaign, and dropped a lot of the very popular Democratic platform, resulting in millions of Democrats sitting this one out.

Do you think this is because they are stupid? Why would they do this if not to take a knee? And I still thought that Trump would lose, I couldn't believe that he would be re-elected. I'm never cynical enough.

Imagine if she ran on a $15 an hour minimum wage increase, helping many millions of our poorest Americans, with over 60% voter support (not Democrat). Our consumer economy would get millions of new consumers participating.

Ds and Rs are now 30% each, independents are 40% of the voters. Both parties know that they cannot win without a majorly popular independent issue. Why was this ignored?

Oh, almost forget, yes, I know, BoTh SiDeS and so on.

[-] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Imagine if she ran on a $15 an hour minimum wage increase

To be extremely clear. THAT WAS ONE OF HER POLICIES

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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 10 points 2 months ago

I have been an Unafilliated Independent since I registered to vote in 1977. Neither party can win without me, but they can't count on my vote. If they want my vote, they have to EARN it, and they even seldom try.

[-] korazail@lemmy.myserv.one 23 points 2 months ago

In the nicest possible way, and only judging from this post, you are part of the problem. Hear me out:

They don't actually need you. Either party. There's a solid base of voters who are going to vote blue or stay home, or vote red or stay home. If you require being courted, then you're either effectively random, staying home, or lean towards one side over the other.

You're possibly upset that none of your choices are good. That's pretty true. 'both sides' have reasons to not vote for them. You need to help fix that: pick a side, whichever one you lean towards, and go make the choices better.

Local politics (the ones at the precinct, county, state levels) decide how we choose our candidates in the larger races by deciding who represents us on those larger stages internally to the party. Example: the general public was not polled for the dnc chair election, it was only people put into dnc leadership, who were voted for, several steps down, by people at the precinct level. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Democratic_National_Committee_chairmanship_election

Is there corporate bullshit here? almost certainly. Can it be overcome? Only if people are paying attention and care to get involved. Voting only in November elections and expecting the candidates to cater to you specifically will not resolve the problems.

The candidates don't need to work for your vote. You need to work for better candidates. Or shut up and vote for the least harm.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

BoTh SiDeS and so on.

One might argue the sides are Labor and Capital, but we only have representatives from the Capital Party to choose from every year

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[-] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

The vast majority of Americans didn't vote for this. Two thirds of us didnt vote for this. If you think this is the voters' fault, you dont understand the world very well, my friend.

[-] ramble81@lemmy.zip 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

1/3 of them didn’t vote, which is very much a vote in and of itself and don’t dare absolve them by letting them continue their “I didn’t vote for this” narrative. You fucking did the moment you chose not to vote.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

A great Canadian philosopher once noted, "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice!"

[-] kieron115@startrek.website 5 points 2 months ago

Lol thanks, now that song is gonna be stuck in my head all day D=

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[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

Wise words. He also said "I will choose the path that's clear," and I feel like none of the people who didn't vote were paying attention. It's been pretty clear, to anyone who's actually paying attention, what's been going on for a long time now.

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[-] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

The majority didn't vote because there are flaws in the voting systems we have. They are disenfranchised, not at fault. I dont blame a poor person for being poor, but I mean, if you want to blame people for being subjugated, thats your prerogative.

[-] kieron115@startrek.website 11 points 2 months ago

I voted for Harris. What else was I supposed to do?

[-] NeilBru@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In the average Lemmy twat's view, try to overthrow the government at the cost of your life and possibly your family's while they pontificate on the internet about Americans not doing enough.

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 11 points 2 months ago

I mean, you're not wrong. They are full of brave, anonymous invective.

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[-] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago

Work on shifting USA culture from alienating individualism, which says "I did a thing, so don't blame me", to a collectivist understanding that society requires mutuality of action and responsibilities.

If my co-citizens fail to vote, or actively vote against our interests, then that's on me, to the extent of my abilities to contribute.

TL;DR: talk to people about civics

[-] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Me too, man. Stay vigilant.

Im watching to news, ready to do what makes sense. If ICE comes to town, I'm there baby.

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[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

America has a two party system where both parties are controlled by capitalists and the entire system is designed to keep the populous divided and distracted so that the capitalists can continue to extract wealth. In such a system, participation itself is the moral choice, not the choice between one side or the other.

Voters give legitimacy to the false dichotomy that capitalists present us.

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[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 8 points 2 months ago

I'm confused by your comment. Are you saying two thirds didn't want this specifically, or are you counting non-voters as opponents of Trump?

My guess is that most of the non-voters, if forced to vote, would have voted Trump. He had name recognition. These types of citizens couldn't name the current Vice President any more than they could find the USA on a world map.

[-] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Unlikely voters, as opposed to likely voters which are the pollsters darlings, are low information, "just trying to pay the rent" kind of people. Why a low information voter with no reason to believe their life would change with either result would by default be a Trump voter speaks to your personal prejudices.

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[-] RipLemmDotEE@lemmy.today 13 points 2 months ago

How does it feel to be a smug, unhelpful asshole?

We didn't all vote for the the orange clown.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

It's just a reminder that the American people are the problem. Even when Trump is gone, the people will remain, so it must remain the top priority of everyone who values democracy and human rights to reduce the power that the United States exercises on the world.

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[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 40 points 2 months ago

No, it's a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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[-] gustofwind@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago

This is the United States of Consumerism gosh darn it and my child deserves at least 30 Chinese made toys.

Only soulless monsters don’t feel the warm embrace of conspicuous and gratuitous consumption

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[-] YoiksAndAway@piefed.zip 32 points 2 months ago

When asked to respond to the president’s call for parents to possibly limit doll purchases when approached while returning to his orifice. Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri, a fellow Republican who has a 5-year-old daughter, quipped that he wished someone would say the same to her.

Appropriately funny typo, but the punctuation is fucked up, too. Does anyone proofread these pieces?

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Well at least you know an AI didn’t write it.

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[-] 2piradians@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

So, did he recently spout off about dolls and pencils again? Because this all happened in May:

Trump says U.S. girls 'could be very happy' with lots fewer dolls under new tariffs

If he did repeat the same nonsense it would be extra wacko this time.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

He did. It's so weird that he uses the number 37, specifically, because every time I hear it, I think of Clerks, LOL:

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[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago

Pencils and dolls, so hot this holiday season of 1934.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Krasnov swings, back and forth, from fascism to communism.

[-] fonix232@fedia.io 10 points 2 months ago

Watch it, some brickhead will be along soon, claiming the two are the same!

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[-] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

But Kamala laughed funny.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Maybe not the Soviet Union. More like Putin's Russia, as proxied by Cheeto McPedo.

[-] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

When his followers have to stand in line for whatever slop Walmart is willing to sell them that week, they'll blame Democrats.

[-] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It goes without saying that Trump, who is friends with that communist Mamdani would want to make America more like the USSR /s

[-] aarRJaay@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

He only used one colour when he drew his pervy picture of a young girl for Epstein.

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

"They're eating the pencils! They're eating the erasers!".

[-] AZX3RIC@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

They're eating, THEY'RE EATING THE LEAD.

[-] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Well, sort of. When you give one man supreme power to do whatever he wants it kind of turns into a dictatorship.

[-] aarRJaay@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

What a dull colourless life he must live with only 2 pencils

[-] velindora@lemmy.cafe 5 points 2 months ago

No, he has the most pencils. HUGE beautiful pencils. He doesn’t want us to have more than two.

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