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[-] LostWanderer@fedia.io 177 points 2 months ago

Couldn't have happened to a worse company! Hope it hurts even worse later on and fractures the Execucultist's will to shill AI further. 😈

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 119 points 2 months ago

Oh good. AI is collapsing and it's taking Oracle with it.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago

Me, watching my company pivot to their cloud infrastructure: haha, I'm in danger

[-] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 48 points 2 months ago

I understand why people keep using oracle, but i have never understood why anyone starts.

[-] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago

Because they have a series of ERP systems and services that some idiot CTO at the company looks at and goes: Yes, give me one of those.

Then once you're on that, you get pulled into more and more Oracle ecosystem shit and you think some day you'll have control and be able to get out. But you never do.

Oracle is like the loanshark of the tech industry.

Once you're in, you're in for life. Good fucking luck getting out.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Because their data centers are run by clowns, and going to the circus is an improvement

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[-] m33@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 months ago

Can’t wait. Payback for Sun, for Java…

[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 74 points 2 months ago

Personally, I am eyeballs deep in this industry and even I’m now hoping to see it all burn to the ground. I’ve already concluded that I’ll never make it to retirement in my field, probably because of automation. Fuck ‘em all.

[-] xartle@reddthat.com 18 points 2 months ago

Same for me... It's depressing. And I no faith the government will do anything besides make it worse. If we're lucky we'll get the Expanse 's version of basic.

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[-] mcv@lemmy.zip 70 points 2 months ago

OpenAI’s mounting costs — set to hit $1.4 trillion

Sorry, but WTF!? $1.4 Trillion in costs? How are they going to make all of that back with just AI?

I think there's only one way they can make this back: if AI gets so good they can really replace most employees.

I don't think it will happen, but either way it's going to be an economic disaster. Either the most valuable companies in the world, offering services that the next couple of hundred companies in the world depend on, are suddenly bankrupt. Or suddenly everybody is unemployed.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 months ago

If LLMs fail and they invested: bailout

If LLMs succeed and they invested: rich

If LLMs fail and they passed: everyone else bailed out

If LLMs succeed and they passed: out of business

Therefore, the logical choice for a business is to invest in LLMs. The only mechanism to not do the stupid thing that everyone else is doing is gone.

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[-] Jakdracula@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago

How is a haunted typewriter supposed to replace all those employees?

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I’ve tried explaining AI to people before and only could get so far before they fall back on “but it’s magic dude” but I love the idea of explaining it as a haunted typewriter.

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

I use the "very articulated parrot" analogy.

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[-] e461h@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 months ago

Prediction: the bubble is real but financiers will find ways to kick the bull down the road until they can force enough adoption & ad insertion to not lose out. The other option is that we pay it, of course. Takes on which is worse?

[-] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 months ago

They'll do both just like they did in 2007/2008. These AI companies and their investors will get bailed out while the rest of us lose our jobs and have to move back in with our parents in the van they already live in.

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[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 11 points 2 months ago

its a ponzi scheme.

[-] oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago

How are they going to make all of that back with just AI?

Government bailouts is how.

Socialism for the rich, dog-eat-dog capitalism for everyone else.

[-] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

Ok but if it gets so good it replaces all the employees, how do people have enough money to pay for their services?

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[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 65 points 2 months ago

I wonder .. will it be another case of "Too Big To Fail" .. or will it be .. "Let The Market Decide"?

I'm guessing the answer depends on how many medals the CEO of Oracle can bestow upon the Orange.

Me .. cynical .. no .. just been here for a while.

[-] mickus@sh.itjust.works 65 points 2 months ago

Where the fuck do they get this money from? $300 billion is fucking nuts. And 1.4 trillion in costs is literally bigger than my countries' entire GDP (Australia)

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 months ago

The 1% is willing to pay whatever imaginary fiat currency they can to eliminate the need for the working class. Then they can finally get rid of us.

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 24 points 2 months ago

While simultaneously acting like a bunch of whining little crybabies about declining fertility rates.

Which is it: AI (and other automation) will replace jobs, or there aren't enough people to work all the jobs?

[-] tlmcleod@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago

Hedging their bets. They're only capable of being sure of the future as the next person, which isn't very capable at all. But they have the ill-gotten means to back both sides so they continue to be on top.

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh I know what they're doing. I just don't give a shit and will point out how ridiculous their sense of entitlement is.

No one is owed another human being.

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[-] orange@communick.news 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Any combination of:

  • Issue new shares and sell them
  • Issue corporate bonds and sell them
  • Borrow money from banks
[-] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago

Well, it's called One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison, after all... 🤷‍♂️

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

OpenAI CEO Sam Altman declared a “code red” last week as the upstart faces greater rivalry from Google, threatening its ability to monetize its AI products and meet its ambitious revenue targets.

Interesting that even Sam Altman is worried now!
AFAIK there are also problems that Chinese companies have their own tool chain, and are releasing high level truly open source solutions for AI.

Seems to me a problem for the sky high profits could be that it is hard to make AI lock in, like is popular with much software and cloud services. But with AI you can use whatever tool is best value, and switch to the competition whenever you want.

It's nice that it will probably be impossible for 1 company to monopolize AI, like Microsoft did with operating systems for decades.

[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

I don‘t know of a single

truly open source solutions for AI

from China. China doesn‘t seem very keen on open source as a whole to be honest. That is unless they can monetize on open source projects from outside of China. Their companies love doing that.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
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[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Please, government of the USA, do not bail them* out. At least not any more than what you're already giving them.

* OpenAI

[-] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago

Altman just needs to cobble together a gold Trump statue, deliver it to the White House, and any bailout needed is his.

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[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

AFAIK there are also problems that Chinese companies have their own tool chain, and are releasing high level truly open source solutions for AI.

One interesting thing about the Chinese “AI Tigers” is the lack of Tech Bro evangelism.

They see their models as tools. Not black box magic oracles, not human replacements. And they train/structure/productize them and such.

But with AI you can use whatever tool is best value, and switch to the competition whenever you want.

Big Tech is making this really hard, though.

In the business world, there’s a lot of paranoia about using Chinese LLM weights. Which is totally bogus, but also understandably hard to explain.

And OpenAI and such are working overtime to lock customers in. See: iOS being ChatGPT-only; no “pick your own API.” Or Disney using Sora when they should really be rolling their own finetune.

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[-] oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 2 months ago

Larry Ellison can fuck off while we're at it, the meddling technofascist bastard. Hope he loses everything!

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[-] TotalCourage007@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago

Do y'all think investors will wake up and realize that techbros are a bunch of fraudster scammers? Oracle deserves bankruptcy for being stupid with money. All my homies hate the AI-Bubble.

Bro even the way journalists talk about AI like it being a bet couldn't be more obvious that it's all a scam. If this AI-Bubble is profitable where are the actual god damn profits.

[-] The_Vampire@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I imagine there's quite a few who believe it a fraud but want to profit anyway.

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[-] manxu@piefed.social 30 points 2 months ago

Honestly, tulips were a better investment than Tesla or OpenAI. In fact, the continued success of the latter two tells you by itself there is something deeply, seriously wrong with the stock markets and the economy as a whole.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago

The sheer amount of AI slop shorts on YouTube must be generating entire dollars in revenue by now. Who isn't entertained and eagerly awaiting the next five million videos of the same scenario over and over again?

[-] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

Fuck yeah. More of this. A lot more.

[-] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Lol get fucked fascist

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