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[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

I don‘t know of a single

truly open source solutions for AI

from China. China doesn‘t seem very keen on open source as a whole to be honest. That is unless they can monetize on open source projects from outside of China. Their companies love doing that.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

DeepSeek being an LLM is far from open source and especially not „truly“ open. The very article you linked basically says as much but wraps it in pretty words. Talking about ignorance.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yes I found out I was wrong, and I thought I had edited most of the wrong posts claiming deepseek is open source.
You are right it isn't, despite articles claiming it is.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[-] breadguy@kbin.earth 6 points 2 months ago

same with qwen, ernie, minimax, and kimi

[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

It‘s open weights but definitely not

truly open source

Feel free to blame the technology as a whole but open source doesn‘t make exceptions for AI models.

[-] breadguy@kbin.earth 5 points 2 months ago

every major chinese model is open source

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Where can I see the source code?

[-] sobchak@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

Alibaba has released Qwen models under Apache licenses (and they are some of the best models that can reasonably be ran locally). Some argue that models aren't really open source unless the training code and datasets are made available though.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

They are releasing lots of open weight models. If you want to run AI stuff on your own hardware, Chinese models are generally the best.

They also don't care about copyright law/licensing, so going forward they will be training their models on more material than Western companies are legally able to.

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