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Hello, Im kind of new here and trying to get used to Lemmy and I was wondering about if this is true since I am considering donating on this site to support alternative projects but wanted to hear other users before doing so. That being said, what have been your experiences?

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[-] BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

I would say, Lemmy (or the Fediverse in general is just like real life. You can say anything you want, but don't expect anyone to invite you to their party or talk to you, if you are being an jerk.

Meaning, that noone can ban you from Lemmy for anything you say. But they certainly can ban you from their own instance and / or not federate with an instance, you are on if they don't like what you say.

Also, as a general word of advice, just be a decent, nice person and you'll probably be fine. Online or offline. A major idea of the fediverse is to imagine and be part of a better world and if we engage with each other respectfully, everyone is better off.

[-] ninexe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

In some cases yes, in others, no. It really depends on the community and instance.

Lemmy has the potential to facilitate free speech discussions, but unfortunately a lot of its users actively suppress the idea because they like censoring their opposition.

[-] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

Says the two day old account...

[-] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 3 days ago

freedom of speech means the government can't arrest you for speaking up. Neither lemmy nor reddit are the government, so freedom of speech does not apply.

[-] ninexe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, you're right (and smart.)

There is no concept of freedom of speech if not formalized from a state.

[-] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

just as I'm free to kick anyone out of my house if they start spewing bullshit, so is anyone else. Being kicked out of someone else's property because they don't like you has nothing to do with freedom of speech.

[-] pmk@piefed.ca 4 points 3 days ago

Which word or phrase do you suggest we should use instead for the idea of freedom of speech applied on a private level? Where in this case the instance admin takes on the role of regulating what can or can't be communicated on their instance.

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

I'd say yes, reddit is overmoderated

[-] Az_1@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

I was using Lemmy And am now on piefed and I can say that Lemmy feels more free from reddit. I find my stuff getting removed less and if it did, the mods would have actual reasons for it rather than reddit mods which removed stuff because they felt like it. There's still the mob mentality with down votes and people still mass down vote things they don't like though

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Absolutely.

It's not even a debate.

My 13 year old Reddit account was perma-banned without warning for saying "PUNCH A NAZI". Let's test that out here.

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And that was just my first of probably 30-40 Reddit accounts before I finally said fuck it and came here. I'm not some asshole purposefully posting asshole shit I know I'm going to get banned for. Reddit is just that pathetic.

It's just that I have zero patience for dipshits posting misinformation (as should we all) and I'm not afraid to let them know it. Lemmy gives me that liberty. Thanks Lemmy!!!

[-] Jimjim@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Uhh something more relevant here would be PUNCH A COMMIE!

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“Freedom of speech” is such a fraught concept. Define your terms.

This place has moderation…but it’s not the same as Reddit with their broad autoban system that the sub moderators tend to exploit. It depends on what you say.

I’m pretty new…but it’s apples and oranges. You’re a lot less likely to be baited into disingenuous arguments designed to make you angry to maximize engagement, here. People tend to post and comment in earnest.

[-] pmk@piefed.ca 44 points 4 days ago

What makes Lemmy different from Reddit is that if some moderator or admin is limiting your freedom of speech, you can run your own instance with your own rules and communities and still be on Lemmy. Reddit can ban you from Reddit, but Lemmy is like a collection of "reddits" that integrate and there is no central authority. To answer your question, as a user you have more freedom to find an instance with rules that align with your values and wishes, and you always have the option to create your own instance, and no one can stop you. If you say things that other people don't want to hear, they might block you, but that doesn't limit your freedom of speech.

[-] Kinkisthebest@lemmy.org 13 points 4 days ago
[-] fizzle@quokk.au 7 points 4 days ago

I would add to this that there is significant controversy around the ideological alignment of the lemmy developers, and most people would find the political leanings of the instances they're associated with to be... unpalatable.

I'll leave you to undertake that journey of discovery for yourself, suffice to say that freedom of speech is particularly limited on those instances.

Other software operates in the fediverse and is interoperable with lemmy. For example, myself and the commenter you replied to are registered with piefed servers, while this post is on a lemmy server.

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[-] VlerrieBR@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Ive made many comments that go against the general view of the user base. It gets downvoted but never deleted or banned. So I would say its pro free speech.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 32 points 4 days ago

Technically, yeah. Some instances are run by tin-pot dictators with delusions of godhood, but if you get banned from one of those just switch to another one.

The communities tend to be bubblier, though, since they're small. So if your opinions don't match you'll get shouted down harder.

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[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

I’d actually consider Lemmy’s freedom of speech to be very similar to the US. Nobody on the network can limit your speech in your own instance but nobody has to platform your terrible speech and everyone is free to ignore your speech and exclude you to just participating on your own instance.

[-] YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Certainly less aggressive admins and auto mods.

[-] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 22 points 4 days ago

It depends what you mean. Individual instances have their own approach to moderation, which influences what you will see and have access to. Some are more hands off than others. But if your "free speech" is really just looking for a free pass to hate on folk, then you won't have much luck with lemmy. There are instances that allow that, but most other instances block them.

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[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

No, it's only on the other direction of extremism.

[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 7 points 3 days ago

There is three questions to consider.

One is the site itself. Reddit inc has their own policies that apply site-wide no matter what. Lemmy has no central organization like that, although each individual server operator has their own acceptable use policy for what they allow on their server. This means it is both more free and more confusing- if you want to post potentially objectionable content like porn, there are plenty of servers that allow it or you can always run your own, but you have to make sure you are on one.

Next is individual group moderation. Both Reddit and Lemmy have this, community level moderators that apply whatever standards particular community requires. There is much less of the 'power mod on a power trip' situation than on Reddit currently, at least in my experience. I think some of that is because the overall traffic level is less, so it will be interesting to see what happens as Lemmy grows.

Finally there is culture and self-moderation. You see this on mass market platforms like Instagram and TikTok, where someone will say like they were roped at a party and want to buy a pewpew to unalive themself or some other such bullshit. Unfortunately that brain rot is spreading into Reddit, even though it is not at all required. Fortunately Lemmy seems pretty free of that so far.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

Moderation exists but it is built by the community at large, not corporate overlords. That may mean that harmful speech is removed more aggressively than on corporate sites. On most corporate media sites, bigotry or trolling has to be extremely overt before it is removed. On the other hand, the nature of Lemmy (and the fediverse in general) is that it's a fairly low cost of entry, so there are many different people running many different instances, each with their own governance.

Try it out for a week or two, and if you find it worthwhile enough that you check it daily, I think it's very nice donate to the person/people running your instance. It helps with the cost of running it.

There are no ads, no corporate content, no manipulative algorithm.

We are not perfect, but we're a lot better than most of what's out there. We're a little bit weird, and most of our jokes are about Star Trek or canned produce (for reasons no one understands), but it's a pretty cool place.

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 8 points 4 days ago

There are no ads, no corporate content

I wish that were true, but if you haven't seen any, thank your moderators.

[-] kindred@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 days ago

And if you have seen any, you can block them and they actually go away.

Instead of a placebo "stop seeing this ad" button.

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[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 6 points 4 days ago

or canned produce (for reasons no one understands)

I think the beans speak for themselves, as does the corn. Does it need any more explaining?

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 15 points 4 days ago

short answer: yes

medium answer: depends on what instance you're on

Hell yeah.

Now, will people disagree with you in very emotional ways, downvote without giving any explanation, etc etc.? Sure! But you won't get banned for opposing Western imperialism, for instance. I mean, I talk about God and give people shit for being vacuous, hedonistic and self-centered (because that's at the core of many sociocultural issues) and I haven't been banned, at most I get boo'd. 😅

[-] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Well lemmy hasn’t banned me for pointing out that a prisoner who is still alive hasn’t finished serving their life sentence

[-] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 days ago

You don’t have freedom of speech on any site. Freedom of speech is freedom from the government restricting your speech, not private organizations.

That said, yes. I got banned from Reddit for merely suggesting that people who harm children should face stiffer penalties. I’ve said that many times here and even pissed off some pedophiles here, but never got banned or suspended for it. I think Lemmy takes a bit more of a hands off approach.

Consider: what I say about Reddit isn’t going to affect Reddit at all. But someone like me says bad things about Lemmy, it might have more of an effect. Smaller sites pick their battles more carefully. Bigger sites don’t care.

But even more than that, Lemmy is federated. That means your instance — lemmy.org — can ban you, and you can just join another, like db0 (what I’m on) or hexbear. We’re on different instances but we’re still able to interact.

[-] Jimjim@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

No... thats not really a thing here anyway. But yeah. I may have been totally banned several times, hearsay. I might get banned again just for saying that. Its usually shortly after I reveal some of my awesome political opinions... /s There really is only a couple handfuls of folks posting content too. Watch for P icarrd maneuver, p ugjebus, c owbea, and some others. They post shit all hours of the day constantly, to dozens of different instances like it's their job... but they certainly aren't getting paid.

No, I dont care about getting banned anyway, im going to speak my mind. Unfortunately, Marxist and commies dont usually agree with me and is usually the point of contention.

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

You think everyone here is a marxist or communist, do you?

[-] Jimjim@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Everyone? Of course not Everyone

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

I wouldn't even say most. The actual communists (ML or anarcho) are concentrated on lemmy.ml, hexbear and lemmygrad (the latter two being heavily defederated). Dbzer0 has many too. But I would say most users are social democrat or democratic socialist.

[-] Jimjim@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

But I would say

Yeah, you may say that, and you might also be full of shit. To state so confidently that you know the the political affiliation of the majority around here is not only presumptuous, but also, quite ignorant...

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

So you know the affiliation of them, but I don't?

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 3 days ago

There is nothing inherently built into Lemmy that protects freedom of speech over Reddit other that being able to host your own instance.

[-] pmk@piefed.ca 4 points 3 days ago

I agree, but I do think that's the most important thing.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 3 days ago

I don't think it is. Unless you are the host of a major instance, most of your interactions are going to be on other instances; these instances can do whatever mod actions they want against you.

If there are people interact on your instance, then you have the ability to restrict their speech.

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[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Freedom of speech. Yeah, sorta.

Freedom from consequences of your speech. Nope.

[-] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Freedom of speech. Yeah, sorta.

Freedom from consequences of your speech. Nope.

They are exactly the same thing.

[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

A lot of people seem to be looking for safe places where they can spew whatever hate they have in their heart and not risk being criticised for it or banned for acting like a brownhole. Better make it clear for people probing the Fediverse.

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