Man, everyone is fucking terrible aren’t they?
Hard to get into politics without having a lot of money, hard to get a lot of money without being (or becoming) terrible.
Even without a lot of money, power corrupts. Which is why rotation is important.
Google deez nuts
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The absolute state of American politics.
The kids from South Park could do a better job running the country's government.
Google life. Google a family. Google a washing machine and mind numbing spirit crushing game shows
Well I didn't Google life. I googled something else.
Shit like this is why we have trump
Biden is why we have Trump. Hillary is why we have Trump.
Jill "I couldn't get more than 1% of the vote" Stein isn't why we have Trump.
People blaming greens for the failure of the Democrats to campaign to their voters is why we have Trump.
Jill "I emerge from my hibernation once every four years to siphon off votes from the Dems" Stein certainly isn't helping, though.
Ahh yes. The votes that Democrats are owed.
A number so high it would round to zero, 0.4% of the vote.
You are doing the thing which caused the Democrats to lose the election, here now.
Say you have a total of 10 voters. If two anti-fascist parties are split with 3 voters going to one party and 3 voters going with the other, but the fascists are more unified and get 4 voters, neither antifascist party has enough votes despite having a total of more voters, so the fascist party wins. Notice how both Anti-fascist parties sabotaged themselves by not being unified. It may be news to you but that is how First Past the Post voting works, and it is unfortunately the shitty system the US uses. The election happens whether you like it or not, and it is in your best interest to not end up being ruled by nazis. Perhaps a bit late for that though. Until that system is replaced along with that electoral college bullshit, the 2 senators per state regardless of population, and the cap on house reps, that's the game.
Quit with these nonsense fever dreams. Nothing of what you described is remotely relevant to the discussion.
The party to blame for the failure of 2016 and 2024 WA the Democratic party. Trump was and is one of the least popular candidates of all time. Democrats litterally needed to make some of the worst strategic choices available to them to lose to him, and they did.
It's the Democrats fault they lost both those elections. The lost those elections by blaming voters in advance while they courted a non existent center.
Well said!
that's not what happened though. there were (at least) 2 fascists parties, and they've won every election since the 1860s.
If you have to make a hypothetical to have an argument sound realistic, you lose.
I hate this argument and this is coming from someone who dislikes Jill Stein she is doing things participating and organizing protests and so on constantly, you can argue their ineffective and they aren't covered often in the media but she is factually doing things.
Jill Stien is a Russian backed spoiler candidate only shows up every 4 years to pull votes.
Then don't vote for her.
She certainly tried to help get Trump elected. Just because she’s ineffective doesn’t make her not a piece of shit.
Your doing the thing which caused Democrats to lose the election to Trump.
that's a lie
At least some of the hard r's I once knew back then, blue collar old timers in the factory, supported Bernie. When he was not the one running, guess who they voted for.
It was the biggest mistake.
In related news, I saw today what year other countries implemented universal healthcare... My jaw dropped as I saw many dates listed long before I was even born.
I'm so sad.
Google vaccine hesitant medical doctors
Putin never bets on just one horse
I love her and you can't stop me
She's mid.
Better than 90% of politicians from Massachusetts, but its a low bar.
She's worse than that. She wastes her party's limited resources on fruitless (counter productive even) presidential campaigns for personal clout.
If she was serious, and not a complete fraud, she'd be putting her effort into smaller campaigns all over the country to build the party up.
I've heard this argument before.
I've already heard the argument that national campaigns are how you gain national media publicity. So it's the most cost effective way to raise the Green Party profile.
However you want to slice it, the current political system is very deliberately designed to keep people like Jill Stein quarantined and silenced. Insisting she's the problem seems to miss the forest of disinformation and corporate propaganda for a very small pro-environmentalist tree.
Yes, Jill Stein has no chance with the current system, exactly my point.
But in smaller, more local races, The Green Party could gain seats all over the country. Just like the DSA does.
Amount of blue checkmarks disturb me.
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