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Most American Farmers are millionaires. They also voted for Trump.
Look it's me, a farmer.
So the argument is that since the executive is collecting the tariffs, it can spend them directly without Congress?
Isn't the IRS also an executive agency?
Last time I checked they aren't making any arguments unless they are sued.
Why Trump thinks he can spend any revenue without congressional permission is beyond me. It is clear his administration does not care for the rule of law. They are a criminal organization.
How much of that £12 bn is going to megacorporations versus small farmers?
The small farmers are drowning in debt so that money will mostly go to the mega corps anyway. Shits fucked.
Once the small farmers realize Trump is coming for their land it will be too late.
I mean, it's too late now, but they're going to keep gargling his balls right up until they're thrown out on their asses.
So, he's taking our money that we're forced to pay due to his stupid tariffs and is using some of it to payoff his supporters who he screwed over with those same tariffs. So, forcing everyone else to clean up his messes. Classic trump.
The human centipede of corruption
Sounds like OpenAI and Nvidia's circular investments.
Or like the arsonist that is also a firefighter.
What about work requirements? Drug testing? Can they use the money on soda and fast food?
I frankly don't want my tax dollars going to "those people." Everybody knows they're just going to use it on Busch light and cigarettes.
Yeah, I'm guessing we will never see any Faux segments on how that one farmer saved up some of his handout and {shock, horror!} used it to {clutches pearls} buy steak. And {collapses on fainting couch} LOBSTER!
It is so weird to me how the people that supposedly loooove the "free market" lose their minds the minute they see someone select their own food when given food benefits? The same people that fall all over themselves worshipping utter slime like Donvict just because he happens to be wealthy and think he should never have to face any consequences want to police the nutritional intake of the very poorest people...
It's because they believe that money is a reflection of how good you are as a person. So if someone needs food benefits, then they are a shitty person, and should be punished for it.
Meth would probably be less popular in rural communities if we stopped farmer subsidies. There's no data to show that, but let's assume and do it anyways just to make sure. Can't waste those tax dollars on drugs that don't make corporations money!
Welfare queens.
True MAGA farmers should reject payouts from the government, because that's socialism and socialism is BaAaAaD
Lol yeah right. Ayn fucking Rand didn't even walk the walk when it came down to it.
No, you see, Socialism is good if it benefits them. But its bad when it benefits people who aren't them.
They should all go to Galt's Gulch.
Vast majority of this funding will get vacuumed up by corporate farms and continue to leave most small family/independents out to dry
Unless everyone wants to be a farmer, large scale corporate farms are how we have to feed billions.
I'm not so sure that's true. There is a shit load of land used to grow corn to make ethanol that's farmed by independent farmers. In the US most farmland is used for soy beans and corn for livestock feed or fuel. It wouldn't be a simple or cheap undertaking, but that last could be utilized more efficiently to directly or indirectly fees people.
I would also bet there are enough people that would love to be farmers that can't because land isn't available or cheap that would step up if large farm operations were broken up. That's pure speculation, but even if one mega farm were split 4 ways, that would still be an improvement to the current situation.
How about them bootstraps, huh?
"What we're doing is we're taking a relatively small portion of that [money we made off tariffs], and we're going to be giving and providing it to the farmers in economic assistance.“
You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the New West. You know... morons.
Howard Johnson is right!
Doctor Samuel Johnson is right about Orson Johnson being right.
Yet another "one-time" payment to farmers... must be another year with trump in the white house: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/14/donald-trump-coronavirus-farmer-bailouts-359932
Seeing this after reading about our military spending approaching one trillion $... It's a pittance. About 2% of the military budget. And as someone else said, most will be gobbled by corps. What a joke.
So how about them tariff checks for americans I keep hearing about?
This is one of the "many ways" we get to see the "rebate"
We'll have a concept of a plan in two weeks.
But first: let's talk more about Gatsby parties and ballrooms...
Well. Trump is using the income from the tariffs to pay the farmers. This is America first at its best. We, the people, pay the tariffs and then that money is used to pay the farmers. The farmers then sale their crops to major corporations. The major corporations the charge us more in the stores to cover the cost of the tariffs we, the people, have to pay. It’s brilliant!!!
Why do they need payouts?
Probably because they voted for this mess.
From his own pocket right? Because his stupid decisions put them in that situation. I would like to see what percentage of money goes to small farms and what money goes to huge corporate farms.
boosting the farm safety net
Oh nice that they get one but no one fucking else does.
Well, without them we all die of starvation, so, yeah they should have a safety net. Unless you and everyone you know wants to become a farmer, mass production farms are how we feed billions of people.
Of course, but from what I'm understanding these subsidies are going to the farmers who's soybeans weren't bought by China because of Trump's tariffs so they weren't domestic food to begin with. Now they will probably rot somewhere instead. Starvation never entered the picture, this is all about money. I'd love to own a farm, sure.
Starvation never entered the picture because there is a safety net and has been one since the dust bowl. Farmgate value for most products is terrible which is why they get so many subsidies and tax breaks.
It's a shame their products aren't valued more, since they are the raw materials for so much including life. I still don't support bailing out farmers who voted for this. I guess I would rather bail out farmers than bankers or oil barons or ranchers, as if I have a choice. Anyways, we can't be sure this money is even going to the right people with this admin.
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