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[-] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 2 days ago

Thats... Thats like a flat earther in computer stuff.

Do those really exist??

[-] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I know it gets thrown around a lot, but the Dunning-Kruger effect is real and applicable to people in all fields.

[-] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago

No matter how fanboi-y a Linux or Apple user gets, they can never out fanboi a Microsoft fanboi. They take making shit up about competitors to a entirely new level.

[-] super_user_do@feddit.it 74 points 3 days ago
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[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 144 points 3 days ago

Meanwhile Microsoft makes the start menu with React

[-] bytesonbike@discuss.online 126 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I try not to let considerations get in the way of doing great work.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago

That is the most punchable response I've seen in a while.

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[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

"I am a react developer"

I thought we are supposed to be language-agnostic after 3rd project.

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[-] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 19 points 3 days ago

No way that's real. Tell me it's not real

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[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 47 points 3 days ago

Lame attempt at ragebait.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 138 points 3 days ago

Tell me you have no idea how software development works without saying it...

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[-] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 327 points 4 days ago

Electron is the only cross platform gui toolkit...

If you ignore QT, GTK and everything else.

I'm so glad that Microsoft makes an awesome cross platfor--- wait, no, but they contribute code to--- hmmm ... Hey, what does Microsoft do to make apps more portable again?

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 161 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The real reasons often are:

  • They want be able to hire much cheaper webdevs instead of software devs.
  • Electron has a lot of built-in data collecting metrics, which they urgently need for creating a real-life KITT.
  • Easy live embedding of content. Sure you can add your own solution, in fact I created ETML as a solution for this problem for my engine, all without any support for nasty scripting languages or convoluted stylesheets (style-inheritance in CSS turned me off from webdev even more than JS did). At best, it can be used for things like embedding videos on Discord, because no one else thought some universal approach, let alone one that disallows proprietary players. At worst, it's being used for ads.

Also a lot of Windows-only apps are Electron apps, only because the manufacturer wants to go "fuck you", even putting protections into the code just in case you wanted to run it on Linux.

EDIT: Forgot the "live embeds" reason.

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[-] lime@feddit.nu 76 points 4 days ago

one of the funniest (and sadly accurate) things i've heard said about linux backwards-compatibility is that its most stable API is Win32. you can run really old windows software on wine because they support stuff even windows doesn't anymore.

of course this is because the expectation is that you can just recompile old software to work on new systems, which is not really a thing on window.s

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[-] FE80@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago

What kind of shit for brains asshole is still defending Windows in 2025?

[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 days ago

And what kind of slavering mouth-breathing teoglodyte doesn't understand that Hannah Montana Linux negates all of these issues, will suck your dixk without hesitation, and lets you read news from four days from now.

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[-] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago

Aren't Qt and GTK cross platform? I have Dolphin and Kate running on my Windows work laptop.

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[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 181 points 4 days ago

that's a lot of words to basically say "i'm a fucking idiot".

[-] art@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago

Okay, how does this dude explain native Linux apps?

[-] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 92 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

(Apple as a platform is so closed that it couldn't be influenced by this utter crap and the developers can use the OS native API's.)

A hidden gem of stupidity and nonsense in the already pretty dumb tirade.

[-] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 71 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
  1. The user land API/ABI is stable to a fault in Linux. The kernel API/ABI is unstable.

  2. Companies are cheap. They hired web devs then tasked them with building a desktop application rather then hiring people to write native apps. They had a hammer and used it to fix every problem they had.

  3. macOS is just as affected by electron apps as a Linux is.

  4. Electron is horrible, but it does bring apps to many an OS once Chromium is ported.

  5. Open protocols or open APIs from the company would fix the non-native app problem.

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[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 162 points 4 days ago

Wow, that's some serious misinformation.

[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago

Abstraction layers? In MY messy pile of spaghetti ass code!?

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[-] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

sometimes if you have nothing nice to say to that person, just post rocky horror .gifs. i really wish this site would have a .gif finder though. seriously!

[-] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 104 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Show me how you never programmed anything without telling me

Software should be maintained, not built and forgotten about. Windows encourages the latter, which is just straight up bad practice

[-] IggyTheSmidge 38 points 3 days ago

Fairly large chunks of Windows code are examples of the latter, in fact.

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[-] arc99@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Every operating system contributed to the bloat. Windows has Win32, OS X has Carbon / Cocoa, Linux has X11 and various widget libs that sit on top of it. So it has been a perennial nut to crack to make cross platform widgets - wxWidgets, QT, SWT/JWT/Swing on Java, XMLShell (Firefox), Electron, GTK/GTK#, winelib etc.

Throw mobile platforms into the mix and it's an unholy mess. Lowest common denominator is HTML and so the likes of Electron "wins" even though it's bloated and slow.

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[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 67 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is such a hilariously bad take. I like how "I can't use Win32 on Linux" morphed into "re-write the whole app in Javascript just so I can use Electron."

Meanwhile, Wine and QT are like: "am I a joke to you?"

I'll add that (IMO) a lot of applications are becoming increasingly malicious, although less-so in the desktop space. I'm happy that devs like this are forced to quasi-sandbox their crap into a browser. Actually, if anyone knows how to crack into an Electron app in order to restore local plugins, user-scripts, and sandbox security controls, let me know. Or just liberate the guts into a local web app instead so I can use a real browser? This trend could be very useful for local security if those features become available.

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[-] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago

He's a magician, because reading this, I aged 10 years and grew a metastatic tumor.

[-] olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 92 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I hate the Windows API so much. There are like 100 million function that all start with a capital letter and take a kajillion arguments just to do the most simple thing imaginable (see CreateThread). And there are twenty different typedefs for the same type (PSTR, LPSTR, tchar* all point to char*). Also all variables and function arguments should start with their types, like hWindow if the window is a HANDLE.

I hate this joke of a programming interface so much, I hope everyone sticks to programming with POSIX and platform-agnostic libraries.

EDIT: And also, did I mention that if you want to use it, you get all of it or none of it? It's literally a single header file named Windows.h. You get just that and take it or leave it.

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[-] GFGJewbacca@midwest.social 78 points 4 days ago

They must really like the taste of leather.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago

No.

They like the texture of leather.

Its the polish that provides the taste.

[-] presoak@lazysoci.al 10 points 2 days ago

You need to put this in clear [JOKE] tags, otherwise they'll never get it.

[-] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 80 points 4 days ago

This is what too much windows does to your brain kids.

[-] abfarid@startrek.website 63 points 4 days ago

I'm pretty sure you guys just took the bait. This is either satire or ragebait.

[-] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 4 days ago

I don't man, Hanlon's razor feels appropriate here.

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[-] thecatprincx@pawb.social 28 points 3 days ago

Someone obviously missed their nap and is having a tantrum.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 69 points 4 days ago

This is not even mental gymnastics at that point.

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[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 31 points 3 days ago
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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I welcome other's input but I thought this was a pretty clear cut case of Mac becoming popular. Why write a program for Windows and Mac when you can just make a website. Then Chromebooks in education sealed the deal.

Linux is only starting mainstream use now because of Europe's push for digital sovereignty and windows 10 end of life.

[-] lefixxx@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Eithet ignorant or troling

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[-] qualia@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

Since when has competition ever spurred innovation? Pff

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