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[-] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 hours ago

No matter how fanboi-y a Linux or Apple user gets, they can never out fanboi a Microsoft fanboi. They take making shit up about competitors to a entirely new level.

[-] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 hours ago

sometimes if you have nothing nice to say to that person, just post rocky horror .gifs. i really wish this site would have a .gif finder though. seriously!

[-] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 15 hours ago

Thats... Thats like a flat earther in computer stuff.

Do those really exist??

[-] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

I know it gets thrown around a lot, but the Dunning-Kruger effect is real and applicable to people in all fields.

[-] super_user_do@feddit.it 74 points 1 day ago
[-] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 9 hours ago

what a great way to create a set of echochambers with schizo worldviews

[-] presoak@lazysoci.al 5 points 1 day ago

But once you read his words he's got a foot in the door. Then he's harder to ignore.

So maybe it's harder to ignore fools on social media. Which would make social media a kind of fool-enhancer.

I guess this is where blocking comes in. But that seems drastic.

[-] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Blocking is severe, but boy is my feed clean of morons (I think I've only blocked like 30 people on Lemmy).

You gotta try it. Very satisfying to click 'read all' on your inbox now and then to clear out notifications for new (hidden) messages from trolls you've blocked.

[-] presoak@lazysoci.al 10 points 1 day ago

You need to put this in clear [JOKE] tags, otherwise they'll never get it.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 47 points 1 day ago

Lame attempt at ragebait.

[-] arc99@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Every operating system contributed to the bloat. Windows has Win32, OS X has Carbon / Cocoa, Linux has X11 and various widget libs that sit on top of it. So it has been a perennial nut to crack to make cross platform widgets - wxWidgets, QT, SWT/JWT/Swing on Java, XMLShell (Firefox), Electron, GTK/GTK#, winelib etc.

Throw mobile platforms into the mix and it's an unholy mess. Lowest common denominator is HTML and so the likes of Electron "wins" even though it's bloated and slow.

i actually don't have a problem with HTML, i just think that instead of every app shipping their own copy of electron, the operating system should provide basic browser functionality.

[-] hamid@crazypeople.online 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

the operating system should provide basic browser functionalit

Microsoft got literally sued and almost dissolved as a company for that

[-] gwl 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

But that's cause it wasn't FOSS, but instead a privately owned closed-source app

If an open standard was set, and agreed upon by most, then nobody would sue anyone

Heck, many Linux distros come with a browser preinstalled, but use a FOSS one to not hit that legal problem

[-] hamid@crazypeople.online 1 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, 1998 was definitely a time where Microsoft wasn't going to do that. They were (and are) in embrace, extend, extinguish mode

[-] gwl 2 points 4 hours ago

If anything they've ramped up on the EEE mode

[-] hamid@crazypeople.online 1 points 4 hours ago
[-] wdx@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

that sounds like Tauri!

Linux and Mac use WebkitGTK, Windows uses Edge/Chromium, Android uses Chrome - as bundled in the respective OS, and you essentially have a frontend running on that webview communicating with a backend running locally via some special IPC protocol

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[-] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago

Aren't Qt and GTK cross platform? I have Dolphin and Kate running on my Windows work laptop.

[-] highball@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, he doesn't know what he's talking about. There is a shitload of frontend developers that specialize in web standards and technologies. Electron was developed to take advantage of that deep pool of frontend developers. The side affect, is that other OSes can just support electron and they get the developers and the applications for free. Which has been a major boon for Linux users and those looking to escape Microsoft's vendor lockin strategy. Today might be different, but in the past, nobody was intending to support Linux by creating electron apps. If they cared so much or it was so important, they would have been using Qt and GTK prior to Electron.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago

As is wxWidgets and others.

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[-] FE80@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago

What kind of shit for brains asshole is still defending Windows in 2025?

[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago

And what kind of slavering mouth-breathing teoglodyte doesn't understand that Hannah Montana Linux negates all of these issues, will suck your dixk without hesitation, and lets you read news from four days from now.

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[-] art@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago

Okay, how does this dude explain native Linux apps?

[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 143 points 1 day ago

Meanwhile Microsoft makes the start menu with React

[-] bytesonbike@discuss.online 126 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I try not to let considerations get in the way of doing great work.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

That is the most punchable response I've seen in a while.

[-] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Punchable is a bit far, probably wanna tone it down a bit, big guy.

Just kidding, but it's only funny and also is it this guys fault?

I don't even know if it's true, but in any case, the guy who tasked a react (native) developer on the start menu is responsible (not the developer).

Example: If I managed a product and hired a python developer and told them to do x, they would likely use python, right? (In this scenario, It is I the manager wjo failed everyone, not the developer).

Also the other commenter is correct. It's like the common saying "use the right tool for the job". The saying doesn't make sense, because the right tool is always the one you know how to use..

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[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

"I am a react developer"

I thought we are supposed to be language-agnostic after 3rd project.

[-] Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Two more projects to go, then!

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[-] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 day ago

No way that's real. Tell me it's not real

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Probably, but only because at this point I'm fairly certain reality itself must be a parody of something.

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[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

Abstraction layers? In MY messy pile of spaghetti ass code!?

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 137 points 1 day ago

Tell me you have no idea how software development works without saying it...

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Tbh, it's not entirely wrong, which is the reason why it works so well as rage bait.

It's really not about Linux, but it is about supporting anything and everything out there with a single app. Use Electron and you can have the same app running on Windows, Mac, Linux, Android, iOS, your car, your game console, your smart fridge and in a website.

Of course the result sucks, but if you can cut development effort into a fraction while also supporting systems that you would have never supported otherwise, that's not a bad deal for businesses.

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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

Yeah, not because they saw a way to develop for Win/Mac/Linux/Android/IOS all at the same time and went yeah, we'd take some of that.

Naw, They REALLY wanted to dip their toes in that 2013 extra 1% of traffic pool.

[-] lefixxx@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Eithet ignorant or troling

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[-] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 90 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

(Apple as a platform is so closed that it couldn't be influenced by this utter crap and the developers can use the OS native API's.)

A hidden gem of stupidity and nonsense in the already pretty dumb tirade.

[-] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 70 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
  1. The user land API/ABI is stable to a fault in Linux. The kernel API/ABI is unstable.

  2. Companies are cheap. They hired web devs then tasked them with building a desktop application rather then hiring people to write native apps. They had a hammer and used it to fix every problem they had.

  3. macOS is just as affected by electron apps as a Linux is.

  4. Electron is horrible, but it does bring apps to many an OS once Chromium is ported.

  5. Open protocols or open APIs from the company would fix the non-native app problem.

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[-] thecatprincx@pawb.social 28 points 1 day ago

Someone obviously missed their nap and is having a tantrum.

[-] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 323 points 2 days ago

Electron is the only cross platform gui toolkit...

If you ignore QT, GTK and everything else.

I'm so glad that Microsoft makes an awesome cross platfor--- wait, no, but they contribute code to--- hmmm ... Hey, what does Microsoft do to make apps more portable again?

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[-] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago

He's a magician, because reading this, I aged 10 years and grew a metastatic tumor.

[-] P1k1e@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
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