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[-] YaGirlAutumn@leminal.space 4 points 6 days ago

Just bekause you believe it doesn't mean you have to obey it

[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 4 points 6 days ago

How are you supposed to stop being sleepy in the morning without pulling out your phone.

[-] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 5 days ago

It's nice to know what time it is too

[-] minnow@lemmy.world 155 points 1 week ago

I mean, those two things aren't mutually exclusive. I can believe the science AND ALSO engage in behaviors it says are unhealthy for me.

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[-] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 38 points 1 week ago

I get why you shouldn't use it before bed but why not after waking up? If it keeps you awake shouldn't it help you wake up?

[-] Venat0r@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] Venat0r@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

that info comes from Julie Morgenstern, an organizing & productivity consultant, so I dunno how scientific it is...

[-] tetris11@feddit.uk 29 points 1 week ago

Also, it's forbes

[-] KyuubiNoKitsune 6 points 1 week ago

God damn, I can't find any solid research that backs up the claims of it being bad for you, granted I didn't do a thorough search, but I did still look and came out empty handed.

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[-] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago

That's a good way to start my work day then because I'm constantly moving from one fire to another.

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[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Just because I don't follow the recommendation doesn't mean I disbelieve it. Science also says I should eat better and exercise more and do less drugs 🤷‍♂️

[-] Enzy@feddit.nu 11 points 1 week ago

Drugs are made with science

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 6 points 1 week ago

It’s actually neutral on the subject of what you should do. That is for medicine and public health policy, or even personal choice.

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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

Small rant, but people saying they believe in science is a pet peeve of mine. Belief has no place olin science.

You can't "believe" in science any more than you can "know" in your religion.

Belief and faith are the realm of the unknowable. Knowledge and fact are the realm of science.

[-] Aremel@lemmy.zip 41 points 1 week ago

When people say they "believe" in science, I think they mean they are putting their faith into the scientists performing the science. That whatever conclusion they come to after an experiment or study is the correct conclusion.

I'm sure you can find the flaw in doing so, as science is constantly being debunked. A good example that comes to mind is the alpha wolf theory.

It can be argued that while science strives to be in the realm of knowledge and fact, it doesn't always succeed in doing so. At least not in the first rounds of study. And I think that's what its strength is; being able to correct itself in the pursuit of knowledge and fact. All the same, science is run by humans, and humans are fallible. But despite that fallibility, some people are willing to put their faith into scientists because of their constant pursuit for the truth. Even if what they said yesterday got debunked today, it doesn't make yesterday's scientists any lesser. It only means we are all better for it.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

When people say they “believe” in science, I think they mean they are putting their faith into the scientists performing the science. That whatever conclusion they come to after an experiment or study is the correct conclusion.

That's literally what they mean, where "scientists" may as easily mean real scientists as charlatans.

It's still completely antagonistic to how science is practiced (if scientists behaved like that, they would never learn anything), and something closer to religion than science.

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[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

I am not smart enough to come to my own conclusions about a lot of science, so yes I must believe what the collective scientific community asserts, because I have no other way to prove things that happen. For me, that means putting my faith in their accuracy. So yes, I believe in science.

It should also be noted that there are people out there that treat science as a religion; that it is infallible, and cannot be changed, and to suggest otherwise is blasphemy. 🤷‍♂️

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[-] Feyd@programming.dev 16 points 1 week ago

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/believe

"To consider to be true or honest"

I don't know what you think believe means but you're wrong

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[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

You can believe that an answer can be found scientifically. You can have faith that what you see with your eyes, and that what happens during experimentation is accurate and not a fluke or trick of some sort.

Just because religion dominates most belief, and there are strong religious groups that hold that belief and faith are binary with no wiggle room whatsoever does not mean that it's the only way they can function. On can still test faith and belief without losing them, and changing those beliefs to what holds more truth.

Holding that that belief and faith have no part in science... is a belief in and of itself. A particularly contradictory one at that.

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[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 24 points 1 week ago

Just because I believe doesn't mean I listen.

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Science is totally right here, I have no doubt. It's just... that I have zero regard for my own health.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Me using phones : wow, I can sleep at 1am, great.
Me "just going to bed" : great, it's 4am and I'm still overthinking my shortcomings!

[-] weariedfae@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Yep. Numbing the thoughts away with constant input helps the body gain the upper hand and let me go to sleep.

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Me trying not to murder my partner who I love very much when her phone suddenly blasts out Instagram brain-rot at 11pm and I’m trying to maintain a vaguely healthy bedtime ritual.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 15 points 1 week ago

I believe what science is saying. I'm just not going to follow it. If I try to sleep without reading something my brain will start ruminating on things and then I'm definitely not getting to sleep. All my reading materials are on a screen.

[-] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

It's not a settled issue. There are research papers that show evidence that blue light affects sleep, which is not the same thing as blue light makes your sleep worse.

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[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 week ago

What's this about right after waking up? (I may have struck this from memory)

[-] NotSafeForWorld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

I believe science, that's why I use my tablet instead

[-] kubica@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago

My circadian whatever has had all my life to get used to it. I don't accept complaints now.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

I have Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome… light has no effect on me. Checkmate scientists!

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[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

If you really wanna ruin your day, apparently late night eating and skipping breakfast also fucks with the rhythm. The body has a few things it uses to keep the internal clock going, not just light.

[-] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

I didn't know my mom was on Lemmy...

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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

I've been trying to talk my wife into dropping the brightness to 50% for years. Her phone is so bright it keeps ME up at night on the other side of the bed. I have to set up a light shield to go to sleep :P

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Monkey brain need dopamines 🥺

[-] EtherTide@aussie.zone 8 points 1 week ago

Don't call me put like this just after I wake up!

[-] Broadfern@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I’d rather spend one hour on my phone before bed than three trying and failing to get my brain to shut up ¯\(ツ)

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Fine! I'll use my laptop instead.

[-] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

I know it's bad for me.

I'm just too tired to care.

[-] Remotedeck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago

It's a matter of effort vs reward. Will it make it easier to sleep? Yes. Will it make it easier enough to be worth not using my phone? No.

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