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[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 120 points 1 year ago

Okay don't think the FTC said Shit hole, no need to hyperbolize everything

[-] vivavideri@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago

I would slide them $5 for them to openly swear though

[-] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Damn… that is 2000% their annual budget.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Exactly. The document simply states

“We're gonna make 'em eat our shit, then shit out our shit, then eat their shit which is made up of our shit that we made 'em eat.”

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago

Good ol' Jay. He is a wordsmith.

[-] charles@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

That's the title of OPs linked article. What's a lemming to do?

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[-] jonne@infosec.pub 18 points 1 year ago

Would be cooler if they did, tho

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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago

Amazon is literally aliexpress but with a more sophisticated UI.

Nothing but absolute shit chinese knock off products. No longer can you get the same kind of savings like you could in the past. You're basically paying full retail now, plus prime or shipping.

[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Sellers even drop ship from AliExpress and similar sites. Basically every time the shipping is quoted longer than a week it's probably drop shipped from one of the Chinese sites. They add $5-$10 to the price and take their cut without ever touching the product.

[-] SamHandwich 10 points 1 year ago

I canceled my prime membership and stopped using Amazon entirely after I ordered something that turned out to be drop shipped straight from Walmart. But online shopping in general is a nightmare these days.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Prime AND shipping half the time these days.

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[-] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 89 points 1 year ago

My favorite enshittification of Amazon is how you can filter products by manufacturer, but only if the manufacturer is a reputable company like JOOGEE or XZzy or GoodTime and not those weird no-name companies like Anker or Samsung.

[-] MrBusiness@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 year ago

Won't even bring up the brands I like unless I search for them specifically, even then they're not the first result. Amazon gives the ad space to brands that are around for 3 months then poof.

[-] mPony@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

but you should buy stuff from Smorkyaplorb Megasystems because they give the best kickbacks

[-] llama@midwest.social 19 points 1 year ago

Oh and I love when I sort by price and half the results disappear.

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago

My favorite enshittification of Amazon is that, plus, the bonus fact the filtering acts different if you pay for prime. The filtering works better with prime. It should work the same regardless if one pays for prime or not.

They basically deliver a shopping experience that is worse unless you pay them money monthly. It's enshittification two layers of abstraction deep.

[-] DreddNYC@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago

Amazon has to deal with their counterfeit merchandise problem. Try to buy a memory card on Amazon and odds are you get a bogus counterfeit card.

[-] Massada42@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

It’s broken for us, it works just fine for them.

[-] mx_smith@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

We got spray items that had nothing but compressed air in them

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[-] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 66 points 1 year ago

For a while I used amazon as a "product browser", I would shop for what I want on there, and then go buy it straight from the manufacturer or whatever online marketplace the seller prefers.

Now, it has gotten so bad, it isn't even useful for that. Amazon will show you 50 overpriced knockoffs of the thing you'd actually want to buy without ever showing you the real thing unless you already know the brand name of what you want ahead of time. The reviews are useless too now, everything has 4 1/2 stars and the same substanceless reviews.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Hard to shop for vitamins when you have sham accounts claiming it cured their cancer, when you're just trying to take better care of yourself but don't wanna fall for homeopathic scams.

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[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 53 points 1 year ago

I ordered a standard deck of cards. Should be simple enough, right? They never arrived. I waited a full month. I finally reached out to Amazon customer support and demanded to know what happened to my deck of cards. Their response was unbelievable: "We're dealing with it."

Where do you live?

American here who uses Amazon frequently (at least 20 times a year).

I'm not debating that frequently, I get the wrong order or something that's clearly fake. But if there's one thing, their support is top notch.

I got a $400 foldable bike that was broken on delivery because of bad packaging, and they said we're replace it. I said I'll keep it since I can still fix it and they discounted me 20% to repair it.

In my previous place, we had lots of theft. 1 out of 4 deliveries. Amazon replaced every single one, no questions. One wasn't even a theft, some neighbor accidentally took mine. I told Amazon and they said keep it.

Every other store, I always get shit. Walmart is the absolute worst. Target is significantly better. But Amazon, no questions asked for me.

I have a decade of stories like this of their support.

[-] sfgifz@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Why did you wait so long - do you stay in some remote place where it's common for things to take weeks to arrive? Otherwise I'd find it a bit sus too if someone takes over a month to report a delivery issue.

[-] Vleeskuil@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

They made a joke, reread the last words ;)

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[-] Zacryon@feddit.de 46 points 1 year ago

Don't use Amazon. It's not like they are the only web shop for stuff you would like to have.

[-] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I've had good luck with drop.com for electronics.

Have any recommendations? Sometimes it's hard to beat the convenience of Amazon.

[-] ChewTiger@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Drop used to be so much better before the rename.

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[-] Fermion@feddit.nl 9 points 1 year ago

Between home depot, target, best buy, and walmart I can typically find most things I'm looking for.

I usually try to shop by reviewers first and check if the manufacturer sells directly. Retailers don't need to get a chunk of every purchase.

[-] daemoz@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Amazon and bezos sucks, but Walmart and the Waltons is evil condensed. the only excuse to shop walmart is if it's the only option for 100 miles. Amazon at least has aws and few redeeming pro services that pay their employees and provide infastructure to others.

[-] Fermion@feddit.nl 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Walmart is a last resort option. For example, my last purchase was an unusual size bicycle inner tube. I physically went to two other stores before ordering from walmart. I have no love for walmart, but Amazon poses the larger monopolistic threat. The damage amazon is capable of inflicting is only just beginning.

Amazon's marketshare with aws scares me more than their retail presence. They will definitely use that market dominance to the detriment of society.

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

I swear by the time FTC notices, they've been doing it for like 10 years already

[-] kaitco@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

IDK what’s worse…that this is a thing, or that I’m so accustomed to Amazon’s shenanigans that I’m used to heading into the dark web of results, aka Page 2, in order to find exactly what I’m looking for.

That said, charging cables are kind of a bad example. I’m prepared to spend $10 on a 6-pack of varying lengths of Brand X cables I’ll replace next year as opposed to one $25 Apple-approved MFi cable that I’ll also replace next year.

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[-] HububBub@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Can confirm.

[-] HidingCat@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

As someone in Asia where Amazon is trying to break through the market with stiff ecommerce incumbents, Amazon is great. And more importantly, they know they have no real value selling the generic Chinese stuff that has infiltrated US Amazon, so the amount of that is a lot less. The Chinese stuff on Amazon tends to be from the better companies that have tried to brand themselves and sell decent products (think Anker at the start), otherwise it's usually products from established brands. If I wanted cheap Chinese stuff I have way better and cheaper avenues.

Competition is good, eh?

[-] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago

How long has Amazon been operating in your market? Their MO is capturing a customer base with low prices and good service, followed by capturing sellers by offering them access to said customer base. After having locked everyone in their last step is to extract all possible value from both groups. Their playbook is creating a chokepoint to force themselves upon everyone for trade.

Check out Chokepoint Capitalism.

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[-] sfgifz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Can confirm - the issues Americans face with Amazon feels so alien here. Even refunds and returns are prompt in general.

[-] HidingCat@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

I know right? And the returns and refunds are a revelation in Asia, where it's usually the buy-it-and-it's-your-problem attitude.

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[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Not gonna lie, it's almost refreshing to hear FTC acknowledge what's been true for years

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

Kick Amazon's ass FTC!

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

DAE remember the Walmart, High Cost of Low Prices movie?

[-] firadin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Lina Khan is staking her career on this one, but the way the US judiciary looks there's no way Amazon suffers.

[-] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Is that a direct quote?

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