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Currently, only GOG and Itch are still selling this game.

EDIT: It seems the game has returned to Humble Bundle.

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[-] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

So wait, why did Epic ban the game?

I will admit I pre-ordered the game on GOG because GOG advertised it as being "Banned from Steam!" and I assumed VISA and Mastercard were fucking around again.... Well that's five dollars for a game I don't wanna play because I don't want to wind up on a list

[-] alehel@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago

All characters in the game now are 20 years or older. So you didn't buy any, no.

[-] iambatman1469@ttrpg.network 1 points 6 days ago

Fuck censorship.

All devs should release their games on their own websites and get paid in Monero.

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 1 points 6 days ago

Just bought it out of principle on GOG. It's $3, you should too

[-] Kraiden@piefed.social 68 points 1 week ago

content that appears, in our judgment, to depict sexual conduct involving a minor

I'm assuming they don't mean a suggestive camera pan, but actually something problematic on screen, in which case, I totally support the ban. Devs were given the opportunity to change it, and they said no. Ban away imho. The fact that this is considered controversial is pretty disturbing to me.

[-] markz@suppo.fi 92 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It was a child doing pony play, riding a naked adult man-horse. The dev claimed it was not sexual.

This was removed later but it's the build you send for review that gets reviewed. Other stores got a later version, hence why it passed on those.

Dev was not given a chance to remove it as it turns out steam has a policy that anything that resembles CSAM gets denied permanently.

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Does being naked make something sexual? I would argue that for content to be sexual it has to have intent to cause arousal.

The fact that it vaguely resembles fetish content does not in and of it's self make it fetish content.

The trailers i have seen for this game do not seem to intend to cause arousal, they seem to want to make the player empathize with the plight of domesticated animals

[-] markz@suppo.fi 0 points 6 days ago

I can believe the the dev in that it wasn't intended to be sexual. But should intent excuse otherwise unacceptable content? Valve says it depicts a sexual interaction, though that seems to be debated a lot.

My own opinion is that it's too close, and that this is the kind of boundary shouldn't be pushed. Despite intentions, the dev really should have known better than to send in anything that could be interpreted as even remotely pedo content.

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 0 points 6 days ago

But should intent excuse otherwise unacceptable content

Define unacceptable? It's subjective. A lot of people had a problem with the cover for Nirvanas Nevermind.

[-] markz@suppo.fi 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's been about sexual abuse. I'm going to call it universally unacceptable.

Does it count? I find it just kinda sexually icky, and I think it would be harmful to the child. If you think it'd be fine, not even in the gray area, then I guess there's no argument there anymore.

[-] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 week ago

I haven't heard about the details, what's your source on that?

As far as I recall, the developer said he didn't know the actual reason for the ban.

[-] markz@suppo.fi 29 points 1 week ago

Some previous article which contained valve's response, and a description of the scene. I didn't find it immediately, but I'll check again.

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[-] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 48 points 1 week ago

Steam was the first major storefront to refuse to carry Horses, a first-person psychological horror adventure about "the burden of familial trauma and puritan values, the dynamics of totalitarian power, and the ethics of personal responsibility" set on a ranch where nude human beings in horse masks are treated as livestock.

Publisher Santa Ragione said in November that Valve declined to carry Horses because it contained "content that appears, in our judgment, to depict sexual conduct involving a minor." Santa Ragione disputed that characterization, but an appeal was rejected and the ban stands.

Seems like it's treading a very fine line...

[-] iambatman1469@ttrpg.network 1 points 6 days ago

They just have to claim she's 1000 years old like the Japanese do.

[-] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 1 week ago

Based solely off the trailer I can see how a big American storefront would err on the side of caution here. There is very little to gain from carrying a game decidedly built with controversy in mind, but a lot to loose.

With the publicity around it and sales still possible through alternative stores maybe things will turn out alright for the developer in the end. "Banned" media is always in demand, after all.

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[-] KaChilde@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago

The game company seems to have thought that they could drum up sales on other platforms by making this a media thing. Based on the additional platforms pulling out, it might have backfired. They could have let their little horse-porn game quietly release on every platform but Steam and made enough to get by. Instead they drew attention to themselves.

[-] GreyCat@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Good on you for dismissing years of work from a group of people as a "little horse-porn game".

[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Looks like it has triggered someone's "we can't be seen backing down!" reflex at Valve

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[-] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

No place for challenging art in video games. Books and movies have been pushing boundaries for millennia, but this new medium is way too effective at affecting people

-Valve, probably

[-] markz@suppo.fi 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I guess you wouldn't be wrong to say that sexual abuse of children is challenging and pushes boundaries.

E: see replies.

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[-] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 week ago

It is available on other, quite popular, stores. GOG and itch.io are household names in PC gaming.

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[-] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Wait, I thought this game was a depiction of what we subject horses to, using a horror lens to drive home the point? I've never heard of something less sexy?

[-] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

My understanding is that there was a scene where a young girl rides a naked man/woman around. Apparently it has since been changed to make the child older, but... I can perfectly understand why anyone would be hesitant to accept such a game based on that description alone. Even if it's not intended to be sexual, the developers were certainly pushing the line

That’s not how this works, you don’t get to decide what is acceptable for other people. It’s people like you who galvanize Mastercard and Visa in trying to control what kind of content we’re “allowed” to purchase.

To be clear this all sounds repugnant to me, but i realize Im not the sole arbiter of taste and have no interest in telling other adults what (legal) things they are and aren’t allowed to do.

If the game is so bad it’ll tank, it doesn’t need outside forces influencing it.

[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Um, he didn't say he was deciding for others, he said he could understand how others would be hesitant... sounded like he was supporting your very point that people have a right to have their own opinion.

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[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

That's not how that works. You don't get to decide what a store does and does not sell. Steam refuses hundreds of games a year, this one doesn't get special treatment.

Saying "I understand why (store) would not want to carry this product" is not the same as saying "no store should carry this product."

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[-] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 week ago

That's literally how it works. If you run a store selling/licensing media you get to decide what's on the shelves and what isn't.

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

Assuming the content is merely controversial and not objectionable (i.e. exploitative), it seems there may be room for an art-centric game store front.

Ironically, I'm betting it's nowhere near as exploitative as the monetization practices of virtually every AAA release these days.

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