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Want a union with that latte? Starbucks workers are organizing (rabble.ca)

submitted 1 day ago by NightOwl@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

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[-] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Good for them, legit. But also stop buying from American companies like Starbucks ffs.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 8 points 17 hours ago

Starbucks in Canada should all obviously be unionized. As should all grocery store workers as well.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 9 hours ago

As should all workers as well

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I am very pro union, please do not get me wrong, ~~but unions for fast food is not my first thought of a good thing.~~

Now celebrating a US fast food company in Canada is wrong, let’s talk about second cup getting bigger and replacing Starbucks.

I realize my wrongs and I feel like a sick scab saying what I said.

[-] rockSlayer 24 points 1 day ago

What makes you hesitant about unions in highly abusive workplaces?

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 9 points 22 hours ago

Fair question, you have made me stop and really think about it.

Originally I thought it is an entry level job meant for young people and retirees, the young ones should be aiming for something more than fast food. I realize I may be incredibly biased with my 54 day experience with a royal food joint who fired me because I am disabled close to 2 decades ago, so now if I want a whopper I have to make a hamburger with thousand island on it. Then I thought I was a member of PSAC and they have scholarships, had booger king had a union I could have benefited from that.

Then there was the whole inflation thing unions raise wages, making fast food more expensive which in turn makes all food more expensive. I was forgetting that raising tides raise all the ships making everyone’s wages go up.

Just because it is an entry level job does not mean they should be treated like peon’s.

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 5 points 15 hours ago

job meant for young people and retirees

I appreciate that you have rethought your initial stance, but the young and the old are arguably the two groups most likely to be taken advantage of, and the ones who should be highly unionised.

[-] rockSlayer 5 points 22 hours ago

That's fair, personal experience is highly temperamental to political thoughts like unionizing low-skill jobs. However, I'd like you to consider the single mothers trying to live on those wages. People have to survive on those wages, and those people likely have others relying on those wages as well. I sympathize with you, having been discriminated against for your protected status. I'd also like you to consider countries where people are paid living wages for low skill work. We all deserve better, and the best way to ensure better wages and better lives come from union fights.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Why don't fast food workers deserve the same as literally every other worker?

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 4 points 22 hours ago

They deserve it and I feel like a sick scab saying what I said. I was considering the Walmart Union in Quebec that lasted a year because people where not interested in staying in it.

[-] malle_yeno@pawb.social 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I am very pro union but XYZ workers unionizing isnt a good thing

Doesnt sound like you're very pro union actually

edit: you didnt actually say that they shouldn't have a union, just that them unionizing isnt a good thing. Which still doesnt sound like you're pro union but still

Edit 2: You rethought your original statement and I appreciate that.

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago

Looking at my statement I feel like a sick scab, and I want to say that what I said was wrong. Unions are good, even for entry level jobs.

[-] malle_yeno@pawb.social 2 points 11 hours ago

I appreciate that you were open minded about this! I looked at your earlier reply and I can see where you were originally coming from based on your experiences.