the article is propaganda btw! many autistic people are still affected by marketing and the like! NO ONE IS IMMUNE
There’s no one a con man loves more than someone who thinks they’re too smart to be conned.
People who think they're immune to ads are the most vulnerable to ads.
Yes, no one is immune to propaganda in the sense of misinformation.
Ads on the other hand... The often quoted subconscious working of ads just doesn't work on me: i choose my müesli based on parameters (like texture, taste,...), not on whims! So ads go on one side in, out on the other.
It's called subconscious for a reason. You aren't concous about it.
How do you know that you choose your muesli based on parameters, when things like taste are influenced by the brand and design of the package. No this is not a joke and there actually have been studies on this.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0950329312002364
Have you considered those ads simply aren't targeted at people like you but at the mainstream instead? And that you may well still be susceptible to adds targeted at your kind of mindset?
Advertisements work opposite for me. If I see an ad, I hate the company. I adamantly will only choose materials based on personal research and the suggestions of my peers. Any suggestion by a corporate entity or otherwise paid method will only serve to brew hate. Beyond that, I will go to just about any means to get rid of ads. I often refuse to deal with a company if their ads show up when I don't want them to, or if their ad annoys me. There is no good ad.
only choose materials based on personal research and the suggestions of my peers.
And how do you know what to choose from? Ads.
You may not like it but advertisements work on you. They just need to be more subtle. You are fooling yourself if you think you are immune.
true that google search is littered with ads. But savvy consumers know how to do research while avoiding sponsored content and finding unbiased specs and reviews.
Autistic people fall hand over foot for propaganda.
I believe you no questions asked
Immune is overstating it, strongly resistant is more accurate. I hate labeled clothing, or team clothing. It irritates me when my car has a dealer label, and do not blow smoke about how cool I will look, with whatever or wearing whatever. If my vehicle moves from A to B, is reliable, safe, and doesn't cost an unreasonable amount to operate, I am good. Does anyone else parse ads, to see their actual claims in neutral language? And filter out the puffery filler words?
Make it noise-cancelling, however, and I am very interested. NRR 33+ brings a smile to my face.
Ads don't actively persuade you to buy something immediately. They plant the information in your mind so that one day when you need to buy something, the first thing that comes to mind is the advertised product. Targetted ads try to shorten this period by guessing what you might need in the shortest term. Autists simply miss the information if they're not paying attention.
Oh, we're paying attention, we're just so insulted that such a pathetic attempt to incept us is what passes for acceptable marketing from multi-billion dollar corporations that we'll gladly buy the brand that didn't advertise simply because it knew to leave well enough alone.
Ads both plant information and attempt to persuade. How much effort went into each and how effective they are varies wildly. Furthermore, there are multiple reasons autistic persons aren't as suseptible to advertisements; it is true that different things tend to get our attention, but it's also true that we find some arguments to be less persuasive. For example "I did this thing and my life is amazing" is far less likely to influence an autistic person than a neurotypical one.
Nobody is immune to propaganda.
That said, when it comes to advertisements, I hate them passionately, and will often note the brand in the advert so I can avoid it.
I don't know how people can function while there's a flashy animated thing to one side of their screen, I literally cannot read the main content until that is gone or covered up. It muddled my brain until it's gone.
Heck, even an overly busy and colourful web page due to a bunch of static ads is very oppressive and difficult to deal with. An untidy website gives me an untidy mind, basically.
I just don't get how people wade through this crap and get anything done. I've blocked ads for decades now, and I'm never going back.
OP I have the 'tism and I have just one thing to say:
Between not watching TV & the pihole router cleaning our internet feed, I may not be immune to ads, but I sure as fuck don't see them.
Foolish lemmings, you only thought you could escape from the endless barrage of advertisement on this obscure technology forum, but over the past 3 months, I have TRICKED you into watching my super awesome movie that I'm currently not allowed to promote in theater!
Nowhere is safe from the masterful marketing techniques of Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie. Nowhere.
Ms Robbie, you're making a scene
You're going to have to be way more specific than that, because as an actor, Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie makes a lot of scenes!
Marketing just isn't adjusted to people with autism because they are only a small part of the population.
They can definitely manipulate you if they so desire.
No, no they can't esp when I block all ads
I feel like about 4% of all the comments on Lemmy are just people telling each other they use an adblocker
Shit, is that why any time I sense the marketing it makes me not want the product??
That's your mind's natural immune system fighting BS
As a general rule, if I want it, I seek a good deal. If I am approached, it's bad deal for me so I avoid.
I was today years old when I found out I was autistic.
Just kidding, I've known for years.
FWIW, I'm autistic (officially) and no autistic people I know are right-leaning.
It's not that propaganda doesn't work on them, I see those types falling for neo-nazi shit all the time because they know how to appeal to them. It's just that they process the world in a fundamentally different way, so a lot of the psychological tricks that propaganda relies on simply doesn't work on them. It's kind of like how the early days of white supremacy had a hard time getting women because all their propaganda played to mysogyny. Once they figured out that they can rewire their hatred of women to be a good thing (the trad wife) that's when they started jumping on board and really driving their influence into the american culture.
I'm autistic and I've always felt I had a certain gullibility. If I'm reading an article, and an argument sounds rational. I'm more likely to fall for it. Even if it contains a ton of bad premises. I'd like to think as I've gotten older and more mature, these kinds of things work less on me. But honestly I'm not sure.
I guess missing social cues works out when they're being manufactured to manipulate you
Advertisement: Attractive woman smiling and putting her arm around a man.
Neurotypical Subconscious: Maybe a nice Seiko watch would make me more attractive?
Autistic Subconscious: I need to remember to schedule my dentist appointment.
Have ADHD with an inability to unfocus from being hyperfocused. I hate ads. I go out of my way to block it and if anything slips through, I mute or just simply turn away.
Funny thing is for work, I'm in marketing/advertising.
There's only one thing that has been successfully marketed to me.
If you think marketing doesn't work on you, then its working.
Faaaake
and people that think they are, are just not self aware enough to notice.
I don't consider myself immune to ads. I do consider myself to be resistant to manipulation, however.
Until they make advertisements aimed specifically on autistic people...
I think I am allergic to commodification. I could get out of my house but there's fee public spaces, so I could go to a restaurant or a coffee shop I guess. Some people seem to do this all the time, become regulars. Isnt it just throwing money away to enjoy having someone else do it for you? To sit in a comfy place? I hate it. I am going to be unhappy rather than spend my days exchanging my money for the chance to smile.
So what actually are the numbers on the low-functioning to high-functioning scale? Because it does not surprise that someone who starts screeching uncontrollably because they find their toothbrush on the wrong side of the sink in the morning would not concern themselves with the new Nike Airs.
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