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There really should be some DOJ investigation into why the SDNY dropped the case in the first place.
Is he basically just a full-time legal defendant now?
His full-time job is pretending to be a martyr/savior and asking rubes for money.
I sure hope the Republican donor class is neglecting the rest of the 2024 races for the sake of trying in vain to keep Trump out of prison
You reminded me of a video news story from the early 2000s where the news station interviewed a guy, who panhandled while pretending to be a wheelchair bound homeless person in front of Walmart, as a sort of "gotcha" journalism piece. He was totally open and honest about it and was chuckling the entire time. At the end of the piece they asked "so now they we have outed you on tv, how are you going to trick people into giving you money?" He replied, "I'm just going to go over there (while pointing to adjacent stores). "And you think you will get people to give you money?" "Yeah, no one knows who I am and people forget so quickly that it won't effect me". (These aren't exact quotes.)
In a way Trump does the same thing. Everyone forgets his past actions quickly, blames the outcomes on the other party, and just moves on to different allegations he can spin. There's so much news surrounding him theres little time to actually interpret his actions, and he can just shift gears to another group of downtrodden citizens to swindle if he pisses his supporters off.
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He’s creating jobs!
So why the hell is this a civil suit rather than a criminal one?? Last I checked, bank fraud, insurance fraud, and other fraud are all illegal crimes that are against the law!
Not that I don't agree with you, but I just want to point out that not all cases of breaking the law are criminal. For example, if you run a red light, a cop won't throw you in jail for it. You'll get a fine, though.
Of course, what Trump did should put him in jail.
But seeing his empire dismantle must be more devastating to his ego than the possibility of prison.
Fraud is a crime that can come with jail time though.
if you run a red light, a cop won't throw you in jail for it. You'll get a fine, though.
Traffic violations such as that are considered civil offences, not criminal ones. Trump keeps being found guilty of federal crimes in civil courts. There's no way that someone less rich and powerful would get the same treatment.
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Only if you’re a poor.
I am also confused. Why does the attorney general put forward a civil suit in the first place? Civil court is for parties to seek damages or the other party to do or stop doing actions against contractual obligations.
Or did Trump defraud the city of New York and it is seeking compensation?
Or did Trump defraud the city of New York and it is seeking compensation?
Yeah, some of the "other fraud" is tax fraud, so in a very real and direct sense, he defrauded New York. Still doesn't make sense for it to be a civil suit rather than a criminal one, though.
Must be nice to be rich and powerful enough for your decades of major crimes to count as civil infractions 😮💨
Quite simple. Civil liability standard of proof is preponderance of the evidence, which is far less than the standard of proof of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in criminal.
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His coffin must be so large to need this many nails
You are now thinking about that one tennis photo
The one with the poop leakage?
yeah that’s the one
Wait... wut?!
actually I think we’re confusing the tennis and golf photos, based on the original golf photo
and this barely modified tennis one
I wish upon you a bag of dicks which you should eat in its entirety, for having made my look at that ass. Twice.
Bags of dicks received, but they sent an economy size order! I feel bad receiving so much appreciation for so little, so here’s a bonus just for you
No more than 215
And yet there he is, still going free.
It's a civil case, so yeah. Only financial penalties and business restrictions can result.
WHY, though? When what he's accused of are crimes and the plaintiff is the NYS Attorney General, why the fuck is it NOT a criminal case??
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Went to Fox News to find this huge story. Scrolled by 7 non stories to find the headline ‘judge announced ruling on trump case’ with a picture of the judge looking black holding a microphone as if she’s some *political activist,” with no mention that he was found guilty of massive decades long fraud.
FYI the photo you're referring to is of NY Attorney General Letitia James, not the judge. She looks black because she's black.
Excellent image-based propaganda, showing Trump clapping which implies he's celebrating exoneration.
Please add screenshot. Don't want to give traffic to them.
It was the first thing I saw when I went to the website, but their description of it is pretty damn accurate.
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hell yeah
Engoron ordered that some of Trump’s business licenses be rescinded as punishment, making it difficult or impossible for them to do business in New York, and said he would continue to have an independent monitor oversee the Trump Organization’s operations.
At this point, who is stupid enough to do business with Trump that would also care if he has a business license?
And why would Trump even pretend to do legitimate business after finding a donation grift that keeps on giving the more trouble he gets in?
who is stupid enough
Republicans
why pretend to do legitimate business
donations laundering
Oh okay, I was a bit confused at first. This is part of the massive civil case, but these are claims within that case that the judge issued summary judgement for. There are still more claims that will go to trial next week.
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Letitia James draws first blood.
I'm not a religious person, but karma is real.
I prefer to call it “justice"
The dildo of justice rarely arrives lubed.
-Socrates
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Am I stupid for feeling skeptical still?
Are you stupid for using your five senses and memory of recent events synthesized by your ability to recognize patterns? No. You're not stupid.
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Summary judgement? Nice. Trump's team didn't see that coming I bet.
For anyone, like me, who didn't know what a summary judgement was:
Summary judgment is granted when the facts can be decided upon without needing to go to trial, where the opposing party would lose due to a lack of evidence. If it's not clear that there is no more evidence, then summary judgment must be denied.
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Let covfefe's house of cards crumble like the small whiny weenie that he is!
This is the best summary I could come up with:
NEW YORK (AP) — A judge has ruled that Donald Trump committed fraud for years while building the real estate empire that catapulted him to fame and the White House.
Judge Arthur Engoron, ruling Tuesday in a civil lawsuit brought by New York’s attorney general, found that the former president and his company deceived banks, insurers and others by massively overvaluing his assets and exaggerating his net worth on paperwork used in making deals and securing financing.
The decision, days before the start of a non-jury trial in Attorney General Letitia James’ lawsuit, is the strongest repudiation yet of Trump’s carefully coiffed image as a wealthy and shrewd real estate mogul turned political powerhouse.
Beyond mere bragging about his riches, Trump, his company and key executives repeatedly lied about them on his annual financial statements, reaping rewards such as favorable loan terms and lower insurance premiums, Engoron found.
Those tactics crossed a line and violated the law, the judge said, rejecting Trump’s contention that a disclaimer on the financial statements absolved him of any wrongdoing.
Manhattan prosecutors had looked into bringing a criminal case over the same conduct but declined to do so, leaving James to sue Trump and seek penalties that could disrupt his and his family’s ability to do business in the state.
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