i had oat butter a while back, and suddenly I understood why all the dairy conglomerates are lobbying hard about the legal names
Because they stand to lose a shit ton of money?
yes
oat milk is an alright substitute, helped by being cheap
oat ice cream has a slightly different texture and flavor, though its harder to notice in the Ben & Jerry's
But oat butter is indistinguishable from cow butter
helped by being cheap
It's twice as expensive here :(
Cow milk has economy of scale and subsidies on its side, milk alternatives would be cheaper given an equal playing field
And imagine if any of those subsidies hit the alternatives!
Even then, oat milk could be sold cheaper than real milk. But they know their target customer is willing to pay a premium for a plant based product
Yeah which is 100% arbitrary pricing. Making oat milk yourself is like 0.02$ per liter. It is incredibly cheap.
Yeah, all of these dairy substitutes are different products and better for different applications. I think oat milk is actually better in coffee than cow's milk, for example. I wish people would talk about them this way. Most of the time people only say they're replacements for dairy, and they don't go into detail where different options are better/worse.
Where do they sell oat butter? I need to try that
seen it in Seattle
haven't seen it outside of there yet
Typical lol
My hometown
This is a little pricier brand, but good. There's a store finder in the menu.
They lobbied and won against margarine back during WW2. It couldn't even be dyed yellow, you got a little packet of yellow dye to add to your white colored margarine at home. This lasted into the mid 1960s when they just started dying the margarine like butter.
Personally growing up on a dairy farm, I'm fine with making the distinction. Like you can't label food something that it's not. You can only call Scotch whisky Scotch only if it's made in Scotland. Same with cheeses and wines in Italy and France. It's a guarantee you are getting what you paid for, the real thing. And not some fake chemical concoction. It goes even so far as soap. Did you ever notice that Dove is called a beauty bar and not soap?
Go ahead and eat all the oat butter and drink all the oat milk you want if you like it. Oats are a pretty under used crop. The majority of it ends up as horse feed. Oats are a high food value food even for humans. I enjoy making oat bread. It's quick, simple, and tasty. Along side of a chili or soup, it makes for a hearty and nutritious meal.
I'm in favour of regulations against calling plant milk cow milk, but I'm against regulations against calling it milk. Look at coconut milk. If customers want cow milk, they can very well look at the label. But normal people just want milk and don't much care what it comes out of.
interesting, i replaced milk with oak milk (recently learned i'v been allergic to dairy this whole time) but had no replacement for butter
To be fair to that barista, the translation of "oat milk" in French ("lait d'avoine") isn't obvious if you don't already know the word. Also keep in mind that the letter H is (almost) silent in french, so he probably thought that client just had a weird accent when they kept asking for "hawt milk"
Also hot is “chaud” in French which could sound like “oat”
Yeah but milk is lait, the guy is not dumb enough to think she was ordering some chaud milk by using both languages.
It’s either lait chaud or hot milk, or "hawt" milk in that case.
We struggle with the oa sound and some "arrr" sound (that’s what ended our pirate career). The worst English word for a French is probably "horror", it sounds like the name "Aurore" with a hot potato in the mouth, something like "Howwowr"
Je suis pas d'accord, je pirate très bien encore aujourd'hui 🏴☠️
There's no freaking way a barista at an airport doesn't know vegetable milks exist. It might happen but damn that's rare nowadays. It takes them nothing to have some vegetable milk on the side, it lasts more so it's not like they might run into supply issues. Weird.
I've seen this image years ago. I don't know how old it was already at that point.
I think this might be a meme about how the french don't like anything that goes against their national values, which heavily relies on eating "proper" food, i.e. no oak milk garbage ... but i could be wrong here.
like how they refuse to speak any language but french
Small shops getting pissy about alt milks is my fav bait.
I bring oat milk in a pocket flask whenever I go to the local coffee shop for dates, which gets some looks, but needs must
It only counts if you pour the oat milk super slow while maintaining unflinching eye contact with the staff.
Oat milk genuinely tastes better than regular milk to me, but it is not cheaper where I'm at.
Somebody with a milk allergy, or intolerance turned me on to oat milk.
For me, I like it better and it lasts longer in the fridge.
I haven't really tried cooking with it yet though.
As far as cooking with it, I mostly just add it to soup. I've not tried anything like baking with it, though. I imagine it'd work just as well, though. Usually for baking what you're really wanting is the dairy fat. And if oak milk is too thin for that, I can vouch for coconut cream.
I've been off dairy for so long that whenever I catch a whiff or taste of cow milk by oops it just seems so cheesy. Like no ty I do not want mozz in my tea lol
Do Americans make this stuff up and really think Europeans don't know what Ost milk is. Bitch please
I think this can only come from language barrier, oat milk in french is "lait d'avoine" which doesn't sound similar at all.
I call BULLSHIT! There is NO WAY that anyone who works in this field doesn’t know what oat milk is… keep trying to uproar your fan base but everyone on the PLANET knows what oat milk is…
You vastly overestimate the level of English of my compatriots. This is a 100% plausible mistake for the average English speaking French person.
Also unless it was a Starbucks or some really fancy coffee shop, we absolutely do not have oat milk as standard. And I've been to TLS, I don't recall that kind of coffee shop there.
This is why it should be called plant juice... Juice comes from plants, not milk. Oat juice ffs
I'm pissed at that the word barista exists. In Spanish we have one word and we don't care if you are serving food at tables, beers behind the bar or coffees behind of another bar similar to the previous one.
We do have the word barista in spanish.
It's not exactly the same as camarero, it's more focused on the coffee part. Same as we also have the word barman, which differs from camarero in that it normally refers to people who mix drinks and cocktails behind the bar.
Gutted to learn I agree with the French on something.
haha vegans are soooo stupid, amirite
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