Probably wouldn't hurt if all the phone manufacturers hadn't decided to remove the input for the most widely used and cheapest style of headphone connector
Don't get me wrong, I hate the loss of the 3.5mm jack a lot, but bluetooth earbuds have gotten down to ~$20. On the cheap end, they're not that much more expensive than wired earbuds were, and they're a fraction of the price of the smartphone they'd be watching content on. I'd also argue that they last longer, as when I was buying cheap wired earbuds, it was usually the jack or the connection to the bud that failed and forced me to get replacements. Even though I'm still buying the cheapest kind, these days I usually only have to replace the buds after I lose them.
You know, phones with audio jacks also have bluetooth, right?
They are down to $5 on the cheap end. They were already under $20 more than half a decade ago, I bought my OG redmi airdors for $13 in 2019. Those were the budget kings at the time and didn't sound worse than $13 wired headphones, although battery life was pretty bad at that time still
You have to pick a higher end phone and a lower end earbuds to get to 'a fraction of the price' in realistic terms. The very cheapest headphones aren't going to sound good or last long, and are still going to be in the range of 1/5th of the price of a budget phone vs 1/16 out something that is more in line with calling something 'a fraction of' something.
A usb c to aux adapter is under $5 You can get usb c headphones for under $10
The bigger problem as is really emphasized by this post is that people just don’t care how their actions are affecting others. If I am using Bluetooth headphones and the battery dies that means I don’t get to listen to music anymore, it doesn’t mean now everyone else has to listen to my music.
Not really the point, it costs, people need to buy it, not doing it is easier.
My wired headphones (Sony MH410c) cost me three euros. But those were often included when buying a Sony phone. A decade ago you automatically had headphones when buying a phone.
Still doesn't make it alright, but it's let's accessible now and I can see that leading to a societal change.
The bar for not being a piece of shit shouldn’t be so low that the only way to stop people from blasting music/videos is to give them free headphones with every purchase…
The issue is not the free headphones that aren't there, it's that people think having no headphones is an excuse to create an acousting hellscape for everyone around them.
We can only solve that issue by telling people all the time until they stop doing it. It seems the reason it's happening more and more is just because many others wear headphones and stare at their phones and no longer observe their surroundings. Strange times.
Sweet, now how do i put a USB-C port on my phone
There are some old iPhones that you can get a lightning to aux adapter for also under $5 but besides that what phone doesn’t come with a usb C and doesn’t have an aux?
The point really doesn’t change though, if you don’t have headphones that work then don’t listen to anything instead of disturbing others
My phone literally doesn't support those, pops up a little warning and everything.
USB Sound card with an OTG adapter works but like, come, that's horseshit.
There are many USB-C audio dongles with an integrated dac. You just happened to buy one without a dac, and is thus not supported by your phone
Pro tip. If you turn the volume down and hold it to your ear you can still listen to whatever without anyone else hearing. Like we used to be able to hear the other end of the line without others hearing in the old days when we used phones to phone people.
I’ve never had the balls but I always wanted to play my own music, turn it up max. Then point the speaker at them.
Maybe, just maybe, they’d get the passive aggressive hint.
I have fantasized of doing exactly that but with the most annoying song I can think of. Something along the lines of Crazy Frog or Hampster Dance.
Maybe "Seele mein" by Eisregen for that existential dread. Problem is, the song is in German.
There is a DIRECT correlation between this shit and removing the headphone jack.
When you can get earphones for $2 at the local servo, it's easy. When you're looking at $300 earbuds or six week shipping for cheap chinese knockoffs, you just use the speaker
It's a shame, because I would totally buy some cheap but good wired ones to keep in my bag and hand to people doing this shit if things still had the jack.
Much more powerful than telling someone they're being a dick.
Doubt.
The people described didn't give a shit then and don't give a shit now. It's not the unavailability of headphones causing people to suddenly be rude and self-centered.
There was a significant minority of people that only cared enough if it was easy for them to do so. It's now harder, so there's more people that gave up even trying.
I mean you can get USB earbuds for $7 on Amazon... It's not like it's hard.
you are a festering polyp on the anus of society
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My neighbor has the same five country songs on blast eight hours a day, seven days a week, rain or shine
I now have to pick between my sanity and fresh air.
I wonder how well sound cancelling techniques would work here. Basically, identify the song, play the inverse, and you should only have to deal with a couple seconds of that nonsense.
The guy who had his phone on speaker but was also holding it like normal baffled me.
Man, I use headphones around my own house when I'm listening to something while cooking or cleaning or something like that in a shared space.
Like not if I'm watching the TV or gaming on the TV as I'm in the designated space to make some noise, so long as it's not carrying across the house. If you don't care to listen to my show or whatever, go to another room. Or if I'm home alone, I'll play my music, video, podcast or whatever openly on my phone because it isn't annoying anyone.
But as soon as I'm just trying to do my own thing in a shared space with others around trying to do their own thing, even at home, I ALWAYS put headphones in out of respect. I don't often get the same courtesy... but then, I can just drown out their bullshit with headphones if I want to, so not worth the argument. My wireless earbuds case is in my pocket at all times for this reason.
I also always have headphones in while shopping. It's a polite attempt to project "Fuck off" to everyone in line of sight. I'm not trying to have small talk with every stranger or acquaintance. I'm trying to do a chore while enjoying listening to Dungeons and Daddies or a YouTube/Dropout video or something. If we're friends I'll pause and pop out a bud. Otherwise, you'll get a nod and a polite smile and you'll be grateful for it. Now fuck off.
Edit: I just realized that I may have given the impression that I'm a teenager living with parents and siblings or something. I'm not. I'm a 36 year old man in my own home with my wife, daughter and a house guest. And despite it being my house, I still give others this courtesy. Just to be clear.
This. And tbh, I wear headphones when I'm alone most of the time anyways because they move with me without having to remember to pick up my phone/have a free hand, plus just better audio quality than shitty phone speakers anyways.
Yeah the people who are just unaware need like remedial education. The people who don't care need something else.
I think that some of them are broken inside. Like the world hurt them badly when they were vulnerable and projecting this tough guy "I do what I want" persona is a desperate play to feel like more than the dust of a shattered ego collected in a bag of meat.
I never understand how people can walk around with massive speakers, blasting music in public without being embarrassed.
I'm always mortified if I accidentally play something before my earbuds connect.
ah, middle aged women telling you to mind your own business after politely bringing up something that is directly affecting you, and thus is in fact your business.
nothing like it.
It has nothing to do with the possibility of someone nearby enjoying your podcast, tiktok, loud speaker phone convo, etc. It’s because you’re a lazy, inconsiderate ass that couldn’t be bothered to use some kind of headphone. That’s all. Doesn't matter why, forgot them, lost them, whatever, but nonetheless it’s more convenient ro ignore the public setting and blast away.
If someone starts filming you because you told them off, you gotta go "Wait are you filming already? Nooo, you gotta wait for me to be ready! Ahem... CANT BELIEVE you're blasting music on the train with no headphones and other people around, you cot no consideratie for other people on the train, ope I said train too many times lemme go again..." And then it just looks like a set up bit that nobody will believe was real.
Lol yooo got set up good though, that was epic.
I had an epihany recently.
I saw some folks of mine mimic mannerisms I happened to see cable news.
...I mean, it seems obvious, but if you turn on Fox News or a YouTube/Twitter feed, the average influencer acts like a enraged asshole. Each a unique asshole; it's not even about politics or anything.
I know the old person sentiment; yes, people have always been jerks.
...But is this where people are losing social skills? Like, they watch this shit and think that's normal public behavior, even if their many years of prior living doesn't resemble that.
I think that's definitely a contributing factor, along with reduced face to face social interactions in everyday life giving people less of a baseline to work off of.
Back when I was in highschool and college (mid-00s to mid-10s) I could usually clock very quickly who had been a shut in nerd mostly watching shows, and sometimes even the specific shows they had watched, by their mannerisms.
Decent amount of manic aggressive girls who learned from that horrible anime archetype (cat princess from Outlaw Star, derringer girl from Trigun, many tsundere characters). One guy I know was pretty much directly emulating Church from RvB. Another guy that was Spiderman and Goku. Usually my gut feelings checked out later when we'd talk about favorite shows and such.
Yeah.
And I don't mean to jump on the "TV rots your brain" type of train (which critics have been saying about fiction forever).
But humans are literally programmed to emulate peers. And I think the line is especially blurry when those "peers" are presented as news hosts, 'real world' influencers, things that are seemingly real life content yet are total clickbait caricatures, and then that's hyper personalized and constantly pinging you on a phone.
Folks really into certain TV characters (for example) know they aren't real on some level and get normalized in life. But that system breaks with the kind of content we have now.
Yesterday on the subway I really thought about going and standing next to the man playing videos on his phone, with my own phone playing some video at top volume positioned right next to his head. And then, when he looked up at me, looking back at him and saying, "Kind of irritating? Isn't it?"
Maybe I am cowardly because I decided not to. I thought about it for a while though.
I don't even make calls in public off of speakerphone. The fact that anyone has the balls to do this is astounding to me
Anywhere outside is fine in my opinion, maybe not a graveyard or something. But in public indoors is really rude to me.
i just play some nerd shit super loud on mine and they generally get the hint and then i turn mine off after
I firmly believe that COVID lockdowns have broken us. The social distancing, the lack of negative social feedback for abhorrent behaviour, even for a short period of time, has emboldened the worst of humanity to stop giving even that tiny fuck they previously gave.
Yes, tons of people today are now so self-absorbed that they can't even fathom thinking of others even for a millisecond. Everything is about "what about me?", and even the mere suggestion that they consider others just for a moment angers them.
We really failed as a society when we stopped telling these fuckers to fuck off.
I blame the Nextel phone circa 2001 or so, and then when it extended to boost mobile and a wider audience for conditioning people to get used to this type of thing.
For the younger crowd it was a cell phone with a “walkie talkie” feature. Initially marketed towards contractors and such as a phone that was easier to use on job sites because the walkie talkie feature allowed instant communication rather than waiting for a cell phone call that had ringing and waiting for an answer.
Unlike normal walkie talkies it was backed by cellular networks so the range was basically infinite, the feature worked as long as you had compatible hardware so even if you weren’t on the same plan you could “beep” people, and it gained popularity quickly because this was the McMansion era where contractors were hired en masse by development companies that built the suburbia hell we have now, who in turn were encouraged to buy these phones and also tended to buy them for their families so they could “beep” them too. It gained even further popularity because the “beep” feature often didn’t count as phone usage in an era where unlimited plans did not exist and metered phone and texting plans were the norm. Lots of elder millennials can tell you about the time they got a $1200+ cell phone bill in 2006 talking/texting with their friends or crush, dark times.
I am so glad they died out. It was a scourge. I was in high school at the time and worked in restaurants throughout. In a short time it went from the etiquette being people being mad about cell phone ringers going off constantly to this nightmare scenario of “chirp chirp HEY WHAT ARE YOU DOING” because again these acted as walkie talkies so there was no ringing, it was just a loud ass speakerphone with a person talking, immediately. When boost mobile came around they capitalized on this and marketed it as the “where you at” phone. Terrible
As someone who had to carry one of these for work at the time -
One of the most ridiculous things about it, was that you didn't have to use the speakerphone with the walkie talkie feature. You could hold it up to your ear like a regular cell phone, talk at a normal volume, hear the other person perfectly fine, and actuate the PTT with your thumb (or index finger if left handed) when necessary.
There was zero reason to use it as obnoxiously as most people did.
Big "and then everybody in class clapped" energy here.
I can kind of see some people, especially with face time or something, using it for safety purposes. Like if they are out walking or something.
Kind of like making noises on a trail to avoid bears.
But when you're with the herd, you're probably safer than you think.
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