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[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 127 points 1 month ago

Agentic, I fucking hate this word.

[-] Carvex@lemmy.world 74 points 1 month ago

It’s only meaning is to management, and is some kind of horseshit way of saying “less employees to pay”

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago

Words for it already exist. Its whole purpose is marketing and AI fart huffing.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

So, you're just wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_agent

An "agent" is specific a type of software that long predates LLMs and this go-round of AI hype.

One example of an agent is a computer program that reads log data of another program and forwards the log data to a log management server. Another example of an agent is an LLM chatbot that can perform actions on its own.

Not all agents are chatbots, and not all chatbots are agents.

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I never said agent is a new word, but thanks for telling me I'm wrong.

Assistive, aid, helpful are all words that could be used in place of the word agentic. It feels inauthentic and fluffy because it is.

I've never heard of agentic before because it is novel word marketing bullshit. Like IoT before it and many others, words existed to explain the technology in plain language but industry gargon takes hold and isn't interrogated for being cold, non-inclusive and confusing.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 6 points 1 month ago

I’ve never heard of agentic before

Because it was an idea floating around before but it never worked out and they never spoke about it afterwards.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

The fact that you've never heard of it before does not make it a novel word. Unless you define "novel" as a technical term that has been in use since the early 1970s... 🙄

https://www.research.ed.ac.uk/en/publications/process-a-mathematical-model-of-computing-agents/

^ published 1975.

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago

Process: A mathematical model of computing agents

  • Find in page ‘agentic’
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Bruh slow down on the “ahktually” and read what you’re putting out there lmao

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[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Technological speak isn't colloquial every day language. Other industries simply aren't taken to forcing industry terms into the general populace.

Use of the word agentic in everyday language is novel and marketing intentful.

Just because I say with peers that a leaf is cordate, sinistrose, and estipulate with a hirsute abaxial surface doesn't mean anyone in science journalism will use those terms. They use colloquial language like the leaf is heart-shaped, spirally arranged, without a stem, and with small hairs on the underside because these terms make broad sense to the public.

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[-] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 18 points 1 month ago

"So you're just wrong" says the guy who doesn't understand that "agent" and "agentic" are different words. One is a real word you can find in a dictionary with a long history of use. The other one is a neologism obviously referencing and created out of the other word, using a tortured conjugation process that only a marketer could love. We're talking about the latter word while you're busy defending the former word. They're not the same word.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
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[-] jaredwhite@humansare.social 9 points 1 month ago

The OP's thread you are entering into is talking about the word agenetic.

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

See even autocorrect from the very companies shovelling it down our throats can't get it right because it is a fake novel marketing word.

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[-] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago

I love how these fuckers talk about the ability to "work anywhere" as if it were some kind of freedom. To me, freedom is shutting my work computer down at 4pm, leaving it on my desk at work, and going home - whether it is for the night, the weekend, or my vacation. I work at work and nowhere else; the only thing freer than that is not working at all.

[-] ibot@feddit.org 26 points 1 month ago

I get it, but hear me out: My company offers to take "workation". For one week this year I worked from another country. I worked for around six hours a day (shorter than usual, because I used some overtime) and enjoyed my freetime in a warm and nice city. I went to museums and good restaurants after work. I did not use one day of my (more than average) holidays for that, but took another week off for only holiday directly after the workation. It was great only possible because I had the possibilty to work from anywhere outside the office.

But here comes the thing. I didn't need AI and didn't need Windows for that. It's possible for years already. Microsoft is - as everybody knows of course - trying to sell shit to people that they don't need and don't want.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Why not just do that every week? That's just called working remotely.

[-] ibot@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago

Short and honest answer: Working in another country for more than a certain numbers of days would have legal consequences (tax, visa, ...), would increase my costs and my employer likes to see me in the office once in a while.

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[-] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Sounds good to me, and i agree that AI adds no value to telework.

Do you ever feel pressured to be more available? That was my problem with telework. I’m salaried, so no overtime. I found my days kept getting longer and longer.

[-] ibot@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago

I felt this pressure before, but independent from telework. It took me a while to realize that there is always that much work that no matter how much I work, I will never complete everything. Therefore, there it's not really worth it to work more. I do the ours I have to and that's it. I do a good job and my boss knows that.

But I'm also aware and thankful that I have the advantage to live in a country with good worker rights, a good employer and my interests lead me on a good career path.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Also known as working remotely

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[-] f314@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago

Almost all actual users hate this. Unfortunately, it is corporate customers that buy the majority of Windows licenses, and those C-levels gobble up that shit like there was no tomorrow…

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 46 points 1 month ago

It’s beyond “nobody asked for this.” People are actively saying “this is bad, I want not this.”

[-] solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 month ago

Switching to Linux was so much less effort than I expected, and so much easier than trying to unfuck a new Windows install (which essentially requires pirating an enterprise version to have a chance), and then still have all of your data stolen despite best efforts. So, yeah, thanks Windows 11.

[-] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

(which essentially requires pirating an enterprise version to have a chance)

So true! I owe some of my Linux journey to the discomfort from the downgrade from Windows Enterprise at work to the (kind of shit) Windows Home, at home.

[-] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ive been teetering on the edge of a fulI move to linux for some time but never could find the energy. I logged onto my windows PC last night, and something about the notification ping, the busted start menu and hearing the fans go wild even though I was doing nothing really pissed me off.

Thought fuck it. Booted up balena etcher, and 30 mins late I was in dual boot Ubuntu. Spent the night getting used to rider and getting the game I'm working on running and I'm NEVER going back to windows.

I tried linux mint a while back and had no end of issues but with Ubuntu it was seamless and painless. I am converted.

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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 24 points 1 month ago

Some other tech website did an article recently about how to unfuck windows as much as possible. Like four pages of tricks, registry edits, third party tools.

People in the comments were like "you know, Linux is free and is getting very user friendly."

People were mad. People really want to stick to windows.

No idea why. I'm running basic pop!_os and have no real complaints.

[-] moakley@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Switching to Linux requires a certain level of technical skill and patience that the majority of people don't have.

It's the same as the build-your-own-PC people. That's their hobby, so they don't count the years of experience, research, and knowledge that they've built up.

See also: recipe writers who don't include prep time in their time estimates.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 month ago

Switching to Linux requires a certain level of technical skill and patience that the majority of people don’t have.

It does. However, it was a technical news website so I assumed the audience had a higher than average technical affinity. This seems to have been a bad assumption

That said, installing Linux is easier than people imagine. Most of the time you download the image and follow some short instructions.

Admittedly, the minority of the time you might have to troubleshoot.

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[-] bytesonbike@discuss.online 24 points 1 month ago

I was given a macbook at programming work and honestly, the battery life sold me on it.

And with that Steam Cube thing, I can't imagine anything Microsoft in my house.

[-] lordkuri@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

Steam Cube thing

I saw someone call it the Valve GabeCube and I can't unsee it now, lol

[-] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

GabeCube is what I'm calling it forever, now. That's great.

I don't think I'll get one (I have 2 Decks, a dock, and a gaming ex-Windows now CachyOS PC) but I'm excited for the controller. Couch play sucks without touchpads on so many games. Steam Input even makes games with massive numbers of keybinds work great; with nested radial menus, you can have hundreds of commands on 'em.

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[-] llama@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago

IMO it's been Adobe really running the Mac vs Windows duopoly for over a decade at this point. If they made their software compatible with Linux people would have virtually no reason to continue using Windows.

[-] chillhelm@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Microsoft Office is also strong. It is still the standard in most contexts and they are just very good.

And while the libre alternatives are all excellent there is tiny points of friction, especially when collaborating with MS Office users and they make non MS Office users not want to switch.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Most MS office application use can work through browser under linux now...

For my purposes, the only time I've had to dust off Windows native Office has been dealing with some of the more "weird" features of presentations that people ask me to work on that aren't handled in the browser version, and my general feedback is that those features are a bad idea in general and should be avoided.

I wager there's also some Excel things that might not work in the Web version, but I don't go that hard with Excel anyway.

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[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

i for one am very excited about this new "AI" pc idea. it will really help to streamline my job, where i spend 8 hours a day talking to Cortana™ and browsing LinkedIn™

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

If you're stuck on windows, you should know, the new version of O&O ShutUp will help you delete copilot off your system.

Cheers.

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

These days I only ever log into windows to play one game. And I put that game as the windows wallpaper so it sits as a reminder as the only one thing windows is required for.

If that game ever becomes Linux playable or I grow tired of it or it becomes obsolete I’m ridding myself of Microsoft for good. I will never even consider playing another game that will not play on Linux. Any game in my wish list that I found cannot be played on Linux is immediately tossed so I never have to touch windows again.

Everything else: work, all other games, dealing with my life stuff, projects: all fedora. FOSS rules. The transition was easier than I thought it was going to be. No one drive or any of that $hit for me. And I also get to keep my old server. <3

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago
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[-] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

I'll do you one better.

When is Pavan Daviluri?

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago
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[-] buttnugget@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

And yet the other 90% of people will still be stuck with it.

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[-] kazerniel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Fuckssake I need Windows to stay usable for my work...

I'll stay with Win10 for another 3 years and see what the landscape looks like then 👀

Please Adobe and Hoyoverse, implement Linux support pronto.

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[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 5 points 1 month ago

And pay for the privilege.

[-] quoll@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

reads just like the old web3 grifters

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