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[-] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 3 weeks ago

The reason those people are opposed to your existence is because the wealthy elites convinced them that minorities/trans people/immigrants/etc. are the issue instead of the wealthy elites.

It is possible to deconvert these people and teach class consciousness, even if it's difficult.

[-] shiroininja@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Doubt. I know the people around me sincerely hold their religious beliefs. They won’t be deprogrammed

[-] Sxan@piefed.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

Religion's a big problem, for sure. I don't have an objection to it per se; if it gives individuals comfort I don't care - we all have our coping mechanisms when faced wiþ existential crisis. It's when how it tends to bleed out in proselytization and oppression.

[-] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I’d love to see wanna-be barons convert liberators, but it always starts with admission of harms. The reds have yet to admit guilt and fault.

[-] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's hard to admit guilt and fault when you are unaware of it. That goes for everything and not just politics.

[-] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

good thing we can communicate and let each other know: “maybe we shouldn’t have deathcamps at all.”

Notice news organizations aren't properly labeling deathcamps deathcamps.

[-] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Notice news organizations aren't properly labeling deathcamps deathcamps.

That's exactly the point I'm trying to make.

People need to know death camps exist in the first place before they will accept any arguments against them.

[-] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They’ve known for 22 years
Ignorance is a choice…

[-] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Ignorance is less of a choice when you don't have any time to pay attention to what's going on because you're dependent on slave wages to survive.

The right has always been dependent on low information voters to survive, and making people work 2+ jobs just to survive is a great way to keep them ignorant.

[-] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Your assumption is that reds are waging themselves. The opposite is the truth: landowners, farmers, bankers, cops, etc. are the abusive expoliters of labor who have been oppressing immigrants to slave for them. They are not ignorant to their exploitations, they enjoy the grifting.

The dominant group (the right), force illiteracy and unschooling to control the ignorant. It's the ignorant and willing I am willing to educate, liberate, and interconnect, not the abusers. The abusive class needs to repent, recompense, reparate, and restitute.

[-] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, I can agree with that sentiment.

[-] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

All I ask from this day on is to never confuse authoritarians from the ignorant. Authoritarians are not ignorant, they are the classists.

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

You've just found the giant gaping hole in Marxist theory. Capitalism is built on chauvinism, bigotry, and supremacy precisely because in-group solidarity is more powerful than anything built on artificial class economic interests.

Imagining that race/gender/sexuality difference will fade away once class solidarity is achieved is arguing that capitalism must be defeated before we can resist it.

[-] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 2 points 3 weeks ago

Isn't the argument more like class solidarity has to be achieved in order to effectively resist capitalism? This does entail the hard work of first opening people's eyes to basic truths by humane means, which capitalism is designed to prevent, thus the struggle. I see no gaping hole here?

[-] queerdo 9 points 3 weeks ago

They are opposed to your existence because our class enemies have lied to them, not because they are evil people.

With education their anger (which is based on material reality; right wing demagogues consistently blame out groups (immigrants, trans people, women etc) for real issues like cost of living) can be channeled into opposing the capitalists and achieving true class liberation. Many Trump voters are moving leftwards because of the economic devastation that every US voter is feeling, and writing them all off is unhelpful to our cause.

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago

Are "Trump voters moving leftwards" or is there simply a brief alignment of desires?

[-] remon@ani.social 3 points 3 weeks ago

That doesn't sound very unpopular.

[-] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's been an entire year, and liberals in this very network have refused to collaborate on dismantling an ICE facility. They’ve gotten arrested and abducted protesting, but the deathcamps still stand.

this post was submitted on 11 Nov 2025
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