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WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Majority Leader John Thune quickly swatted down a Democratic offer to reopen the government and extend expiring health care subsidies for a year, calling it a “nonstarter” as the partisan impasse over the shutdown continued into its 38th day.

Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer made the offer to reopen the government on Friday as Republicans have refused to negotiate on demands to extend health care subsidies. It was a much narrowed version of a broad proposal Democrats laid out a month ago to make the health tax credits permanent and reverse Medicaid cuts that Republicans enacted earlier this year.

Schumer offered Republicans simultaneous votes to end the government shutdown and extend the expiring health care subsidies, along with a bipartisan committee to address Republican demands for changes to the Affordable Care Act.

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[-] Bell@lemmy.world 94 points 2 weeks ago

"But Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., made clear he will not make any commitments. “I’m not promising anybody anything,” Johnson said Thursday when asked if he could promise a vote on a health care bill."

He's not even willing to promise a vote. Dems need to hold firm, Republicans are not feeling the pain yet.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

And it should be noted that democrats were willing to cave in exchange for a promise from republicans on a vote that, even if it passed the fascist-controlled house, would be vetoed by trump.

Democrats were willing to cave and get nothing like always.

[-] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 weeks ago

How were they caving? The article says the offer was extended subsidies for a year. Its basically just kicking the can down the road a year at which point based on what we saw this week, the dems might have imminent control of congress.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

How were they caving?

They split the bill. One part contained what republicans might vote for if they weren't just keeping the government closed so there's no vote to release the Epstein files. The other part was a standalone bill to extend subsidies which democrats know won't pass.

Yes, it's caving. Because democrats were only pretending to hold out until after the election. They got the only thing they wanted out of the shutdown and it's not continuing subsidies for healthcare.

[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 70 points 2 weeks ago

It’s like they’re relishing doing everything they can to show everyone they own the shutdown

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 60 points 2 weeks ago

This is your reminder that the reason the government is shutdown is because they want it shut down.

They could reopen it tonight, if they wanted to, and do all this shit they’re wanting to do, too.

They’re not doing that because they want it closed.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They turned down Democrats' caving???

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 26 points 2 weeks ago

It's not really caving. They knew the offer would never be accepted, but now they can say, "See, we made an offer and they wouldn't even vote on it."

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

It’s not really caving.

It's nothing but.

[-] d00phy@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Agreed. It’s calling their bluff. Now Dems need to have 10 people on every right wing show yelling at the talking heads about whose fault all this is.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

It's not calling anything. Democrats just cave. It's all they do.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

The only people to believe this are people with very short memories.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Dude, they just offered to end the shutdown and get nothing out of it.

That's called caving. But you're right. They don't cave at all times about everything. They were absolutely steadfast about selling weapons for genocide.

EDIT: And dear fucking lord, I'm so tired of centrists saying there's something wrong with the brain of anyone who disagrees with them about anything at all. The gaslighting and ableism are disgusting, but not even remotely surprising from the wing of the party that also supports genocide and spewed Islamophobic hate at Mamdani for daring to beat their preferred sex pest cuomo in the primaries and in the general.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Schumer offered Republicans simultaneous votes to end the government shutdown and extend the expiring health care subsidies, along with a bipartisan committee to address Republican demands for changes to the Affordable Care Act.

You think extending the health care subsidies is nothing?

Must be nice to be privileged.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

simultaneous votes

two different votes. One guaranteed to fail, since republicans don't want it. The entire point of having both on one vote is so republicans have to vote for something they otherwise wouldn't.

They're not extending health care subsidies. They're jettisoning them. With your enthusiastic approval.

They knew holding their ground was popular, so they did it until the election, and now they're abandoning the people who elected them, brazenly, openly, and with your support.

Must be nice to be privileged.

Must be nice to have two parties that perfectly represent everything you're about.

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