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[-] uphillbothways@kbin.social 77 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

For some reason if people couch their hate as a religion it becomes a protected right, which is just one reason we should reverse that shit. Religion is bullshit, should be outlawed, and religious people are ignorant, abusive cowards.

[-] TruthOf@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago

We need freedom from religion not freedom of religion

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 years ago

It would solve a lot of problems though.

How about this, freedom to practice your religion, but only in private places. Like a "Don't Say Doctrine" law

[-] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

It's really tempting to agree to ban public displays and mention of homosexuality if we can also do so for all religion. It's a one step backwards, two miles forward situation...

[-] Rambi@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I mean that's what France was going for when they banned burqas, the idea was that people are free to express their religion privately but not in public. I personally think if you're going to take people's rights to wear a certain piece of fabric in a certain way away like that, the ends definitely don't justify the means.

[-] AdamantRatPuncher@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Freedom of thought is the one thing they should never take away from you. Let us be clear, that freedom of thought is not freedom to hate. But at the same time it is a shield from hate.

[-] ZzyzxRoad@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

I kind of always thought that's why the first amendment said there should be no national religion

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

In my experience, religious institutions are ignorant, abusive cowards.

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Nah, so are the people. If people weren't such ignorant cowards, they wouldn't use religion as an excuse to be abusive.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

There are billions of people privately practicing/ believing their religion and not bothering you with it, while there are only a couple thousand of institutions/ powerful people using it to abuse people.

Religions should be left out of politics, but people are still allowed to say/ believe what they want in their own space. (I'm not religious btw)

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

It's those billions of people quietly using their votes to put people in power who make life harder for so many people.

Religion should be left out of politics, but rarely ever is because all those religious people want their religion to inform political decisions. And that's true whether they admit it or not.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Again, "all those religious people" keep religion out of politics in most cases. You're thinking of the loud minority.

[-] SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So where do the votes come from?

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[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lmao, Roe v Wade was overturned by a conservative supreme court, with a crooked republican party using the religious minority to gain support, not by a popular vote. Tell me you don't know what you're talking about without telling you don't know what you're talking about.

[-] TheHighRoad@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I think most religious people are victims themselves. Problem is they don't realize it, so they just perpetuate it and the cycle continues.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

Not everyone needs to be a religious bigot, they just need to be apathetic.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

’m not religious btw

Not an atheist either.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You're saying I'm not an atheist either? How did you conclude that inspector Clouseau?

What I think other's are allowed to believe in has nothing to do with what I believe in. Why wouldn't I be an atheist? Why can't I be an atheist and let people believe in what they want at the same time?

[-] TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

It's one thing that it says something in a book and a totaly different to acctually act after it. If there were a non religious book that was written as long ago as a lot of religious ones and that had the same impact in the past you were still alowed to read that nowadays. But the second you actually do the stuff the Bible says no religion protection law makes it legal or right. The problem is not the book. The problem are the institutions and a few idiots.

So don't make the mistake of generalizing everybody just because they are religious, because then you're making the same mistake those religious idiots.

And religion shouldn't be outlawed. That just creates a world where the people who believe in religion will have to hide their beliefs. The correct way is to stop giving Christianity special treatment and start treating them as normal people who happen to believe in something.

[-] ignotum@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago

Most religious books tell you to kill religious people, people with a different religion that is

[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Most religions agree with all atheists with the exception of whatever god they happen to believe in.

I grew up in a Christian school, and they taught us how ridiculous Mormonism is -- calling it a cult. Same for Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists... There was a whole curriculum for it in our Bible class.

We spent months talking dog shit about all the other religions while unironically praising our own dogma. My school taught that the King James Bible is 100% literal. LOL

They even told us Catholicism is basically a cult, but it's too big to call it one.

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

If bashing other sects of your own religion as a required school activity doesn't sum up some major of problems with Christianity, I don't know what does.

[-] Wilibus@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

Can they at least not use a corpse nailed to some pieces of wood as a symbol.

[-] Cabrio@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's ok, he's a Middle Eastern Jewish Socialist, their symbols represent Christians perfectly.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Damn tree-nailing hippies!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

They're just showing what they would do to other Jews if they could get away with it.

[-] SpiritedTaco@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago

I want to be stoned to death.. 🌴💨

[-] IjonTichy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

why was same sex marriage and cannabis often legalized at the same time? because if a man lies with another man they should be stoned...

[-] MartinXYZ@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago

I don't have a book that says so, but I'm all for throwing religious extremists off of tall buildings.

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