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For some reason if people couch their hate as a religion it becomes a protected right, which is just one reason we should reverse that shit. Religion is bullshit, should be outlawed, and religious people are ignorant, abusive cowards.
We need freedom from religion not freedom of religion
It would solve a lot of problems though.
How about this, freedom to practice your religion, but only in private places. Like a "Don't Say Doctrine" law
It's really tempting to agree to ban public displays and mention of homosexuality if we can also do so for all religion. It's a one step backwards, two miles forward situation...
I mean that's what France was going for when they banned burqas, the idea was that people are free to express their religion privately but not in public. I personally think if you're going to take people's rights to wear a certain piece of fabric in a certain way away like that, the ends definitely don't justify the means.
Freedom of thought is the one thing they should never take away from you. Let us be clear, that freedom of thought is not freedom to hate. But at the same time it is a shield from hate.
I kind of always thought that's why the first amendment said there should be no national religion
In my experience, religious institutions are ignorant, abusive cowards.
Nah, so are the people. If people weren't such ignorant cowards, they wouldn't use religion as an excuse to be abusive.
There are billions of people privately practicing/ believing their religion and not bothering you with it, while there are only a couple thousand of institutions/ powerful people using it to abuse people.
Religions should be left out of politics, but people are still allowed to say/ believe what they want in their own space. (I'm not religious btw)
It's those billions of people quietly using their votes to put people in power who make life harder for so many people.
Religion should be left out of politics, but rarely ever is because all those religious people want their religion to inform political decisions. And that's true whether they admit it or not.
Again, "all those religious people" keep religion out of politics in most cases. You're thinking of the loud minority.
So where do the votes come from?
From the minority? Are you having trouble reading? It's okay I'll explain it again, education is hard to come by these days.
If you take the US for example, if all religious people were diehard people trying to replace your rights with the word of god, you'd have a dominant conservative majority every year. The minority is exactly the small group of conservatives who are trying to use religion to fire up their base.
The truth is more than 75% of people are religious in the US, but only a minority use it to support draconic policies from the right. A lot of them are democrats or other not bothering you with their beliefs, and leaving it out of politics. You're confusing all religious people and religious institutions/groups.
+80% of people on earth are religious. Thats 58,000 million people..if they all used their beliefs to dictate policy we'd be back to the middle ages.
Way to ridicule yourself by sharing no stats at all and not even googling anything. If those percentages are wrong, what are they then? Seems you don't know the first thing about "education".
Pew research. Don't be fooled by the 2010 count of population, you can find the updated stats in the article).
Belief in god "dips" to 81%
The first article has the updated numbers (different numbers, similar ratio), the second one is from last year. Remember that time you said there was zero chance sp many people were religious. Lmao
I'd argue the only people trying to take rights away and replace it with their own morality is Christians. Also, they are succeeding. I'd also argue there is a high percentage of that 75% that identify Christian but have no real affiliation with a church and only practice a pseudo Christian based morality.
Nope, not limited to Chistians at all: https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-a-ny-town-increasing-haredi-influence-turns-a-school-board-into-a-battleground/
Interesting
Roe v Wade
Lmao, Roe v Wade was overturned by a conservative supreme court, with a crooked republican party using the religious minority to gain support, not by a popular vote. Tell me you don't know what you're talking about without telling you don't know what you're talking about.
I think most religious people are victims themselves. Problem is they don't realize it, so they just perpetuate it and the cycle continues.
Not everyone needs to be a religious bigot, they just need to be apathetic.
Not an atheist either.
You're saying I'm not an atheist either? How did you conclude that inspector Clouseau?
What I think other's are allowed to believe in has nothing to do with what I believe in. Why wouldn't I be an atheist? Why can't I be an atheist and let people believe in what they want at the same time?
How so? I'm being serious here. What freedoms do you lose as an atheist?
A better wording is "getting extra protections". Corporations with religious owners have argued their way out of paying for health insurance that covers contraceptives. A high school coach can make a big show of prayer right in the middle of the field (and yes, that's what he was doing; it wasn't private at all) and the Supreme Court will say that's fine. Literal torture is allowed if you call it "gay conversion therapy"
What the Satanic Temple does is turn all that around. Fine, you get all this stuff under the name of religion? Then so do we. If you think that's ridiculous, well, yes, it is.
That makes more sense to me, thanks. All stuff I personally wouldn't do, but that's me.
I had to pledge (or at least appear to) allegiance to god and country almost every weekday morning for 12 years. I have god on my money, god on my courthouse, and god on my license plate.
We have medical advances and procedures outlawed because they deal with fetal stem cells, which is mainly a hold up on the part of religion. People also use religion to reject vaccines willy-nilly, which has a huge impact on public health.
I'm sure there's more, this is just off the top of my head while shitposting.
It's one thing that it says something in a book and a totaly different to acctually act after it. If there were a non religious book that was written as long ago as a lot of religious ones and that had the same impact in the past you were still alowed to read that nowadays. But the second you actually do the stuff the Bible says no religion protection law makes it legal or right. The problem is not the book. The problem are the institutions and a few idiots.
So don't make the mistake of generalizing everybody just because they are religious, because then you're making the same mistake those religious idiots.
And religion shouldn't be outlawed. That just creates a world where the people who believe in religion will have to hide their beliefs. The correct way is to stop giving Christianity special treatment and start treating them as normal people who happen to believe in something.
But thats exactly what I said was not ok. There is a big difference between some old book saying something and people actually acting after it.