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If the court was doing their job they would have ruled this unconstitutional in the first place. A tariff is a tax, the executive explicitly does not get that power
Congress has authorized the president through legislation to levy certain tariffs in specific situations, but none of those situations apply here.
If they give a fuck about maintaining their power, pass a new law nullifying those specific situation capabilities.
This Canada thing seems like political maneuvering. If Dems vote to gut healthcare for 40M americans as a result, congrats, you’ve now seen how “bipartisan compromise” results in fucking over average American working class.
The court is doing its job. Empowering fascists and kneecapping bringing them to justice when they aren’t in power. The point of a system is what it does.
Think about how mentally ill this entire scenario is for a second... Congress voted to deny king fascist from doing something he never possessed the ability to do in the first place. Like, his executive orders about tariffs are supposed to be completely ignored, yet businesses and the government have been illegally collecting tariffs anyway, because a pathological liar lied and declared a "national emergency".
The USA is a lawless, failed state ass, corporate klepto dictatorship masquerading as "democracy"...
So what's going to happen when Trump vetoes this?
Kicked back. Overruled by 2/3 supermajority in house+senate.
Given that the EO exceeded branch powers in the first place, that there is now blood in the water, and considering how unpopular this additional sales tax is becoming among both consumers and business owners, it’s not impossible that votes would flip to overturn.
In that case, however, expect another EO to preempt the result by yet again reversing tariffs for specific cases.
All of this back and forth takes time. We won’t be completely rid of tariffs until the 2026 midterms, at the earliest, and that is only if a supermajority of “Demoncrats” and “RINOs” are elected, unfortunately.
Businesses could revolt and stop collecting tariffs in anticipation of this, but it’s a risk they probably won’t take, because they’re all afraid of Trump.
*meme Always has been...
Take away his ability to implement tariffs at all. That should be up to Congress along with things like declaring war.
And make "war in everything but name" considered war too.
First Brazil, now Canada. DO THE REST!
It only matters if the house actually comes back from it's prolonged recess (most likely to avoid voting on Epstein files).
Even then, it's unlikely for the house to pass this as Republicans have a much larger majority there.
ELI5: How can they vote on shit when the government is shut down? Help me out here.
Iirc, only the House is shut down. Someone said this is symbolic, with the House shut down this would never reach the President, who would certainly veto it anyway.
Republicans don't cross the aisle when it would mean anything. They just want to say they voted for something good, even though everyone can tell it won't pass
While the resolutions won’t ultimately take effect, they have proven to be an effective way for Democrats to expose cracks between the president’s trade policy and Republican senators who have traditionally supported free trade arguments.
... However, House Republicans have passed new rules that allow leaders to prevent such resolutions from getting a vote in that chamber, and Trump could veto the legislation even if it did clear Congress.
Fuck yes!
But this is not forgotten and Trump is definitely not going to let this stand.
Also people should face consequences for unconstitutionally doing this.
Does this also need to pass in the house? (where they are not meeting because of the funding vote?)
Forget the house, without 2/3rds vote, it can't pass Trump. He can just veto it
Shhh, he may have never learned he can do that.
He can literally veto the damn thing. Nothing changes unless he's gone.
That’s really close.
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