I still have the DVDs and CDs I burnt back in the day. I will never give up my music
"We used to mark them 'summer mix' and put them in a soft case full of them in the car, which was the style at the time"
You would change your disc at a red light, as tradition tells
I did it at 80 for style points
Pah, I had a CD-changer for 6 discs!
"Look grandpa, I found this box full of save icons in your old stuff"
CDeez Nutz Burnin’
You like tapes and CDs?
How 'bout I tape my dick to your head so you can CDs nuts!?
There's a cream for that
And a weed strain
Wait until they hear we ripped them after burning them
Never. The audio equivalent of "Needs More JPEG"
When I was your age, we used to own our music. It worked offline and we could copy it to other devices.
Why aren't Normies speaking up about everything needing internet? Street navigation, music, videos, reading, games, etc. Are all things that would work brilliantly normally, no server required. Why does no one realise, that if the server disappears, so does in effect their personal property? If it is tethered to a server, it's broken, because the server will disappear, the question is only when.
why aren't normies speaking up
They dont care. Speaking as a normie-convert, so long as it works right now idgaf. When it doesn't work tomorrow I'll cry about it then and demand to speak to the manager, but right now? Summer will last forever.
Why aren't Normies speaking up
I'm the most bland person you'll ever meet and I kept all my CDs and DVDs. I would never buy something only as digital/cloud format that I couldn't burn on a disc. It gave me anxiety from the beginning. I have multiple external storages with the same copies of photos and I still print the most precious ones out. I'll have music and memories if the internet ever breaks down, I just need a power generator.
I also absolutely don't see physical copies of books, music, or movies, as clutter. Booklets in CDs are to die for, and I think it makes for great room decor. If I burn a CD I usually make some collage artwork as a cover to accompany the disc.
Cds are digital data storage discs that are etched in microscopic 1's and 0's in a microscopic spiral with a laser, and then later read back with lasers. You can only write them once but you can read them a million times. So grammatically, in the same way you "nuke" food in a microwave, you "burn" a cd in a cd drive that is capable of writing cds.
Maybe someday we can have cheap (cheaper than other storage media per gb), durable (last at least my lifetime), terabyte, fast read optical media. I would love to permanently store lots of stuff that doesn't ever need to be rewritten.
Well you etch pits you don't actually use numbers. Also it's not a spiral, it's not a record player it's not been read by physical stylus so you don't need a guide, they're just concentric circles.
You start the disc off as a zero, then whenever you need to transition to a one you etch a pit, then it will continue to read that as one until you etch another pit and flip back to zero. So the sequence 0111001 would be etched as _.__.__.
Discs can also be overwritten, and used multiple times, you just wipe the entire top layer off and start again on the layer below, only really cheap CDs were single use.
As for the future there are already experimental crystal storage solutions (made out of artificial diamond so it would be essentially indestructible) which really are single use, but they can store hundreds of petabytes of data so you would probably just treat them as if they were rewritable. There's also DNA storage but the equipment to save and read the data is nowhere near commercially viable yet.
Ngl, i didn't know it was concentric circles. I always thought it was a spiral like a vinyl record.
Also the encode is pretty neat, I didn't know that.
I DID know about RWs being rewritable, and you could sort of brute force some supposedly single write discs.
To be clear, I wrote that to be as simple as possible like if a person read it who really didn't have any idea, they could have a relatively quick understanding in plain terms. Guess even I learned something today!
I think there are some optical media like that. the discs are cheap but the readers are made of mithril.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc - This one floundered and died before coming to market
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_optical_data_storage - A bunch of different solutions, and it looks like they were all being developed independently circa 2008, and then went nowhere
My guess is that there's not much use case beyond archival backups. That's not going to get the economies of scale that CDs/DVDs/Blu-rays have. It'd be priced for the enterprise market, but they already have perfectly good archival backup solutions. You'd also have to prove that it can be durable for at least a few decades, but even for commercial duplication, previous optical formats are just OK at best on longevity.
huh, I could have sworn there was a format for long-term archival, like 50+ years. I guess the GitHub Arctic Code Vault project went with microfilm using some very custom equipment to produce it all. but maybe everyone just uses tape (which is fun! but a bit less durable, and more finicky about being stored well)
M-disc, I presume?
See, I had a 6 cd rack for burning but I never learned why it was called burning. Every time I asked in irc, they said something to the effect of “head to the doctor, you should get that looked at.” Any kind lemming care to elucidate me?
Edit: finally I can rest in peace (and go to the doctor)
Sure! It's called "burning a CD" because you are literally burning it. You are using a laser to burn or etch a texture into the CD that can be read by the lasers in other CD drives.
Anyone more knowledgeable than me is more than welcome to add details and correct whatever I got wrong. I know the basic concept, but I'm no CD engineer.
Edit: The original explanation I had here was that a laser burns pits in the CD material but that was wrong, apparently only pressed discs use physical pits in the material. The laser used in a home CD burner changes the color of a photosensitive dye on a recordable CD. So I think actually "burning" is due to a misunderstanding (which I had until I just looked it up) of how a home CD writer works.
Huh, you learn something new everyday. Thanks!
No you don't! You can't make me!!! I'LL NEVER LEARN!!!
continues being American
My understanding was that it had to do with the laser in the CD/DVD/bluray drive "burning" the data onto the disc.
There was a downloader called lime wire, it was a simpler time.
It's what nazis and christians burned before books were invented
I still burn CD's.
Most people thought you had to snap them in half to destroy the data, and that the data was on the "down side". No no my friend, the data is the shiny label part and you can wreck the disc by just flaking some off with a pointy metal thing.
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