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unlawful actions
Uhhh... those are called crimes.
I'm sorry, were ICE agents just entirely above the law before this ruling???
Still are.
Sure, the ruling says they CAN be arrested for doing illegal things. But are they going to be? Cop sees ICE beating down a brown person. Is the cop going to run over and arrest them?
Or will they assist ICE?
Depends on the city, and their leadership. Some cities have already directed their police specifically not to assist ICE. Not a huge jump from there to "treat them like a regular civilian".
Many cities were doing this from the beginning. Whenever you read the term “sanctuary cities” it was really just a promise not to help.
Local police are not allowed to assist federal agencies enforce their policies unless it is a crime locally. You can even argue this prevents turf wars and conflicts of authority. States rights y’all
Local prisons are not allowed to detain people that have not been legally convicted of something that is a crime locally. You can argue this protects state resources being exploited by unfunded federal mandates. States rights y’all
But no, it’s a YUGE jump to actively interfere, even if it is to enforce laws against federal agents.
I'm sorry, were ICE agents just entirely above the law before this ruling???
Police, by default, are thanks to Qualified Immunity. It takes a judge and a shit ton of evidence to waive that inherent protection. Even for situations where the officers were violating constitutional and statutory rights, and even someone with a severe mental handicap would know clearly that those actions were illegal.
Qualified Immunity is such bullshit.
No, technically they’re not. Cops could always be arrested for unlawful actions. And “qualified immunity” includes the word “qualified”.
This is Just like the the literal/figurative debacle: for some reason people are good with redefining a word as it’s opposite. literal now means figurative. “Qualified” now means “complete”
This is a start because it declares federal agents are the same, but as long as qualified immunity means complete immunity it’s only limited help in restoring law
Uhhh… those are called crimes.
Sort of. In most places, they will be the same, but in legal terms for law enforcement, "unlawful" really means that it isn't permitted by the law. The action might not be criminal, as in there is a law forbidding it. Again, in most places that means the actions are illegal, because of laws that criminalize the violation of a person's civil rights, but that's not always the case.
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This needed a fucking ruling?!
It does, unfortunately.
"If any of you local or state law enforcement decide to grow a spine: the state courts have your back."
Reminder: Federal judges can deputize as many citizens as they need to enforce a ruling and there are about 80k well trained, freshly fired park rangers that may want to assist with that.
Hell deputize every citizen (including membets of local PDs) to police ice- and effectively youve taken away their sovereign and qualified immunities.
And started a universal basic income!
Court rules laws exists.
Trump administration expected to appeal the decision.
... and in the meantime, fascist shitbags get to continue being fascist shitbags while the appeals court eventually rules that they're allowed to be fascist shitbags. Rule of law means nothing in the US any more.
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“no one who wears the badge of public safety should be able to abuse their power or break the law.”
Lololol
they won't do anything against ICE, because that will imply that they have to also go after cops when they break the law. and that's a no no for
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Arrest ICE. They regularly use false or no plates on their vehicles - it would be a slam-dunk case, since the police can just read the plates to see if they are real. Once arrested, the masks go off and the criminal histories will be open for all to see. In this fashion, Blue States can delegitimize federal traffickers, and further prosecute the Trump Regime in the courts of public opinion and state law.
We need militias to conduct citizen's arrests on these anti-constitution traitors.
Cool. Let's start seeing some arrests of these motherfuckers.
If the cops perform the job as is typical, they'll just yell "he's got a gun" and shoot them.
You know, if it's ICE on the receiving end instead of a random black guy I'm pretty happy with that improvement.
The day a non-right-wing judge or politician orders the arrest of a right-wing federal agent or paramilitary is the day everyone learns the left has no law enforcement power.
There is a good reason the Canadian Liberals used financial instruments when dealing with the convoy protests and didn't just order the RCMP or police to stert arresting people.
Bruh the police literally did show up in the end and it was a whole fuckin’ thing. It was livestreamed even, you can find video of it. Now, there was a problem with absolute fucking moron leading the Ottawa Police at the time but he was removed shortly afterward.
I’m not saying we gotta start trusting police, but they’ll take most any excuse to go handcuff someone and exert power. They’re kinky like that.
Start collecting evidence
Arrest them on sight because they're imminently dangerous, organize the widely available evidence and bring charges after they've been secured in a cell
Citizen arrests are going to get messy.
Well I'd certainly hope so.
Could, but very unlikely they actually will.
Not many cops are going to go around arresting ICE agents for such things I don't imagine.
This is likely part of why they prioritize hiding their faces and other identifying information. Watch them struggling to arrest someone and they will let go of someone just to pull their masks back up. They are breaking a lot of laws, but if a court can't identify them, they can't be charged. Secret police above the law are a key part of a dictatorship.
I doubt any police are going to risk arresting them in the field anyway. Even if they could make the arrest without it dangerously escalating, Pam Bondi would gleefully call it treason or insurrection, and bring in an army.
They can't breathe with those masks. They would be so happy if we removed them for them.
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Cops are explicitly motivated to keep other cops out of jail simply because it could happen to them too.
Whatever..no one was sent to jail for Kent State murders.
Trump is gonna be pissed if he ever understands this.
Now do cops
Cops are already held liable for crimes.
You realize this is the exception in the US, not the rule, right?
Well, if a cop didn't have qualified immunity, then the assault and kidnapping required to effectuate an arrest would make arrests impossible. I mean, an arrest is an assault. Cops physically restran the person with handcuffs. It is a kidnapping because cops are taking taking the arrestee against their will.
The issue isn't qualified immunity in general, it's the courts unwillingness to actually enforce its disqualification when there is clear evidence, even evidence cited in other trials in some cases.
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What does it mean for cops to arrest paramilitary?
It sounds like it will be many contests: who can shout louder and bring more guns to bear? Who gets confused first, who gets shot first?
It's a bunch of barely trained cops who can hardly handle policing armed citizens and now they're gonna handle ICE? They'll need to be careful and deliberate.
It's not like the goobers ice is deploying are well trained.
No, and that's so much worse, because ICE is armed and feels like they have the mandate for violence backed by the president.
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