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A society is always about 3 days of hunger away from a violent revolution. Start your clocks.

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[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social 26 points 2 days ago

And with only one week for people to prepare. Smooth.

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[-] foodandart@lemmy.zip 116 points 3 days ago

Thing is, it's gonna hit the rural MAGA folks the hardest.

There's a part of me that wants to go "I told you so.." which is expected..

But the more cunning part of me wants to leverage their hunger, dismay and rage and work to aim it squarely against Trump and the entire MAGA movement.

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[-] sampao@lemmy.ml 79 points 3 days ago

Not an American but if the government shutsdown and they are cancelling programs, shouldn't you not have to pay taxes for that time period?

[-] Demonmariner@lemmy.world 55 points 3 days ago

Most working people have their estimated taxes deducted from their pay before they receive it. They don't have an option to not pay.

[-] Sunflier@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago

Well, that one congressional district that has their congress person being kept out should definitely not have to pay because that would be a taxation when they have no representation.

[-] fodor@lemmy.zip 46 points 3 days ago

Also, several congresspeople have said that they "don't represent the Democrats" in their districts. I think that, too, should immediately exempt those residents from taxes.

[-] homura1650@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

You can fill out a form and send it to your HR/payroll department to adjust your withholdings at anytime, and they are supposed to do so no questions asked.

The employee not paying their income tax does not actually have an adverse impact on the employer, so they don't care. Of course, the employee still has the legal obligation to pay; but breaking tax law is pretty inherent with tax protest.

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[-] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 42 points 3 days ago

Can any Americans explain to me, a Canadian, how it makes sense for essential services like food benefits to be suspended just because your government can't get their shit together?

Like, genuine question here; how is this is a good system? How does your country benefit from things being designed this way? I'm not saying we don't ever have political deadlock in Canada, we most certainly do, but even as someone who gets half my household income from the military, I've never had to worry about a missed paycheck just because politicians are being stupid. We have failsafes for that. Why don't you?

[-] hildegarde 25 points 3 days ago

In a sensible country, the government would continue to spend at the levels of the previous budget in the event of a delay in negotiating the renewed budget. It makes no sense. There are no benefits. Please do what you did in 1814 again we need it.

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[-] fodor@lemmy.zip 35 points 3 days ago

So, many many years ago, there was a system where when a bill was passed, that meant it got funded. Simple and sweet. Actually it wasn't that sweet, because Nixon was refusing to spend money that the law required the U.S. government to spend, similar to what Trump is doing today.

The current system is generally based on the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974. There have been many small and large changes since, but the structure basically goes back to that.

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[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 days ago

So fun fact, the shutdowns came from a legal opinion of the AG in the 80s, and they didn't even adhere to that decision until a decade later, except for the first time. Reagan wanted the government shutdown to force Congress hands to cut more then they wanted to.

Then for the rest of the 80s and some 90s everybody ignored that AG decision until 1995 when Newt Gingrich (man that fuck was bad for the country) got into a fight with Clinton over spending and then all of the sudden the AG opinion mattered again.

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