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[-] Macallan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

What if I irregularly smoke pot?

[-] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

Watch as the GOP takes away gun rights from a sizable portion of their own pot smoking, 2A glazing base... and none will waiver their support.

Like clockwork, they get mad for all of 3 seconds, then they remember the GOP is leading the genocide against brown people and LGBTQ+ people, then they forget anything happened at all.

[-] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

It's already illegal. This is a challenge to restore those rights.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 7 hours ago

Pot snokers may be on the fence about you coming for their guns, but gun owners are gonna get real mad about you coming for their weed

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 16 points 16 hours ago

One of the biggest potheads I know is a right wing trumpet with TONS of guns. The irony would be pretty sweet I gotta say.

[-] bobaworld@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

I think you're a little mixed up. It is currently illegal for a regular pot smoker to own guns. The supreme court is looking at potentially getting rid of that restriction. So if they did, I think it would actually reenforce your friend's love of Trump.

[-] discosnails@lemmy.wtf 4 points 12 hours ago

Far out man.

[-] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

People who regularly smoke weed should not own guns. Neither should anyone else. Sincerely, every developed nation.

[-] BanMe@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago

If everyone else gets guns, then weed smokers get guns too, otherwise it's a very convenient way to selectively apply gun restrictions to specific groups of people.

[-] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

yeah, i agree the disparity is shit. there is no legitimate reason to treat weed smokers differently. if you were to use a gun in self defence, say, i can understand that whether you were impaired at the time might be PART of the legal picture, but that notion should apply evenly to everyone, irrespective of the drug. like you said, it is just another tool for targeted enforcement.

[-] Hellahunter@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

After smoking, I’d be too scared to even look at my gun, let alone use it.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Can't wait to send this to the weed smoking chud I know. Also they gonna throw out Hunter Biden's criminal conviction?

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 15 hours ago

Smoking pot should be mandatory. Some people need to calm down, mellow out.

[-] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 115 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They're just trying to find other ways to take guns from leftists and trans people.

Also, since pot is federally illegal, and legal states don't normally give the feds buyer info, how the hell would they even know? A form asking if you smoke pot? What stops someone from just saying they don't?

[-] frezik 69 points 1 day ago

A form asking if you smoke pot?

Yes, that's exactly what already happens. The form in question is ATF 4473 for purchasing a firearm, and it is a federal crime to lie on that form. As far as the ATF is concerned, it does not matter if weed has been legalized in your state or not, or if it's for medicinal purposes or recreational.

As of now, you cannot own a firearm if you are "an unlawful user of, or addicted to" pot or any other banned substance. This has rarely been enforced, and it's hard to bring enough evidence to actually prove it. Were they a user when they bought it? A user an hour later? A month later? How do you even prove that in court?

The few times it's been prosecuted, it's usually one thing in a pile of more serious charges.

If the Supremes rule against it, then it's just the status quo. Nobody can really prove it. There is some reason to think they'll strike this down.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

The ambiguity serves their cause. I expected for them to give a vague ruling that keeps people worried. The nazis running the government want fear, uncertainty, and doubt because it makes people easier to control. This ruling will be "Sure, go ahead, we prob won't disappear you and your family for no reason at all, trust us, and stay in line"

[-] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

it is a federal crime to lie on that form

But are you really lying when you think or feel you're answering truthfully?

I.e., what is regular? Once a month? Once a week? These seem more "occasional" than "regular". And even at 3+ times per week, in "regular" territory, what if you stop?

Are you still a regular smoker if you've been clean for a month? Two months? Three or four? Six or a year?

Of course, this is all under the assumption they don't just get ICE'd or Venezuela-boated.

[-] CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago

I think the answer lies in the Hunter Biden charges. They can ask the question when purchasing a firearm and then charge with a crime later if they can show that the person lied.

Honestly wouldn't be shocked if they started going after recreational marijuana either. Some big liberal states have legal marijuana.

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[-] flandish@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

the question on the form is not temporally bound; it asks if you are currently using. i read it as “are you smoking while filling the form out?”

the answer is always “no.”

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[-] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

This is already the law, they are actually looking to overturn it. Despite having used it to prosecute Hunter Biden.

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[-] bobaworld@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago

The way the law works currently it's just a mechanism to remove gun rights from people and to tack on extra bullshit charges to anyone who happens to get caught with a little weed and also owns guns. Sincerely hope they can actually change this law because it is almost entirely used for bullshit.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 23 hours ago

the gop hardon for weed+jailtime, to feed into the forprofit system, in order to get kickbacks plus use the prison population as part of the census.

[-] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 day ago

NO ONE IN THIS COMMENT SECTION READ PAST THE HEADLINE.

Everyone here is assuming they're trying to outlaw this. It is already outlawed. They're looking to overturn it.

[-] spacesatan@leminal.space 3 points 15 hours ago

I'm hoping it's mostly europeans, I feel like most americans with any exposure to gun culture should already know about this being illegal.

[-] Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago

The assessment should consider ALL mind altering substances the gun owner consumes. Beer, weed, medications. Self-reporting isn't great, but better than nothing.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

I hope they decide they can. That said the entire corpus of the Roberts court still needs thrown out

[-] surfrock66@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago

Wonderful, set precedent that the 2nd amendment is totally subject to the whim of the president. Then let's flip all of government in 2028 and work on fixing this gun problem once and for all.

[-] flandish@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

i’m all for better gun laws, and I speak as someone who owns multiple and yet still does not trust the 2nd amendment anyway. I think we should be reminding folks that “amendments” don’t mean shit, and we need legit common sense laws.

and a separation of concerns when it comes to what a gov can and cannot do. eg: laws won’t stop ppl from owning guns, but mental health/healthcare WILL stop people from causing harm.

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[-] RotatingParts@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 day ago

Aren't the pot smokers more mellow and less likely to fight/shoot/kill someone. I think drinkers stand a better chance of violence. How about we leave both groups alone. Case closed ... next?

[-] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 day ago

I think the issue should be pretty cut and dry. You can drink as often as you want and own guns. You can't go out shooting while you're drinking. You should be able to smoke whenever you want as long as you're not inebriated when you're shooting.

[-] webdox@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

What does this have to do with legally owning a gun. This isn't about shooting inebriated. This is about cherry picking one group and castigating them. I have no idea where you go the idea that anyone said it was okay to get high and shoot. That's a total straw man.

This ridiculous nonsense should and will get the NRA up in arms.

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[-] SARGE@startrek.website 8 points 1 day ago

You can’t go out shooting while you’re drinking. You should be able to smoke whenever you want as long as you’re not inebriated when you’re shooting.

Fully agree, and have alienated myself from former friends over this.

You can drink all day and night. but don't you dare touch a firearm while drinking. I don't care if you're just a little buzzed, man

As far as I'm concerned, smoke weed every day. But don't you dare touch a firearm while high. I don't care if you're just a little toasty, man

Drugs and guns don't mix. Alcohol is a drug. Don't drink and shoot.

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[-] Boozilla@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago
[-] webdox@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Notice how they don't go after those who regularly do Ketamine or the Cokeheads sauntering the halls of the WH at any given hour.

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[-] Triumph@fedia.io 12 points 1 day ago

ATF form 4473 question 11(e) asks:

Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? [my bold]

Are you. Right at the moment you are checking the box, are you an unlawful user ...?

Caffeine and nicotine are stimulants.

Are you ... addicted to ... any ... stimulant ... ?

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago

lol. so many rural gun owners smoke pot. the stereotype is a urban youth but it is so common in rural areas.

I'm gonna take a shot in the dark here and guess that they'll completely forget about the historical precedent test that they just randomly pulled out of their ass, but only when it comes to drugs, queer people, and leftists.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

“SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, LIBTARDS!”

* Terms and conditions apply.

Tap for spoilerNot applicable to blacks, liberals, queers, leftists, women, convicts, or users of the marijuanas. Sincerely, American Taliban, Guardians of Pedophiles.

Now do alcohol and you have a gun free country :D

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