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[-] brianary@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 hours ago

What happened to all the phone apps that made an effort to detect IMSI catchers, like SnoopSnitch, which appears to be abandoned (F-Droid reports some fishy anti-features?).

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Probably removed by the respective app stores under pressure from law enforcement agencies. A lot of free “snoop” or network detection apps have been removed or paywalled.

[-] vildis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 day ago

Here is it working in action while law enforcement is flying a spy plane arouns a neighborhood

https://youtube.com/watch?v=d1tYv2gCd6k&t=483

[-] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 142 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In case you, like me, were wondering wtf stingrays are (besides a type of fish). This is from their report :

Cell-site simulators, also known as "Stingrays" or IMSI catchers, are devices that masquerade as legitimate cell-phone towers, tricking phones within a certain radius into connecting to the device rather than a tower

Cell-site simulators operate by conducting a general search of all cell phones within the device’s radius, in violation of basic constitutional protections. Law enforcement use cell-site simulators to pinpoint the location of phones with greater accuracy than phone companies. Cell-site simulators can also log IMSI numbers (unique identifying numbers) of all of the mobile devices within a given area.

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The fact that government agencies are using these devices without the utmost consideration for the privacy and rights of individuals around them is alarming but not surprising. The federal government, and in particular agencies like HSI and ICE, have a dubious and troubling relationship with overbroad collection of private data on individuals.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 14 hours ago

Wait, people didn't know about StingRays?

They've been around for like a decade now.

But uh, yeah, basically, they're fake/spoof/honeypot cell towers that man-in-the-middle all nearby cell network traffic.

This is how they do the whole... everything dragnet, all the time, basically all cop cruisers have them in them, active all the time, this is why you just don't bring your phone to a protest unless you really know what you're doing.

[-] Amir@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

So how do they break my SSL connections?

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

It's a little less about reading what you're saying or looking at on your phone, it's mostly about tracking where your phone goes and figuring out who you are that way.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago

They don't really need to.

They get all your phone's metadata, and thats usually enough to plug in to a bunch of other databases that they can add you to a watchlist of some kind.

I mean really at this point we are all in a giganto mega watchlist, its just that its so big that the problem is actually sorting through that list and 'accurately' assigning threat levels, but thats what Palantir is for.

Like, they get your IMSI code, unless you are somehow regularly/randomly resetting that, uh, they can easily get a bunch of other info from cell providers, they just can't (usually) specifically use that info alone to convict you of something, but...

They know who you are, roughly where you were and when.

So thats a pretty good starting point for a subsequent investigation, or just throwing it onto the dragnet data pile.

[-] wetling@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

When someone finds one of these simulators, what would they do?

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago

Based on this link, the proper thing to do should be to report it to the FCC. I am not sure how much Trump's FCC will pay attention to the report, though....

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 26 points 1 day ago

Whatever you do, you shouldn't accidentally spill saltwater on it. That could destroy a very expensive piece of spying equipment, and would be a terrible, tragic accident that could interfere with the advance of nazism.

[-] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

You're thinking of magnets. That's how you ruin magnets.

https://youtu.be/rkIKEJPAUzM

[-] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Report it to your favorite news media ig

[-] MTZ@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Also alert your friends/colleagues that there are IMEI/IMSI scanners at the event, so that they can prepare accordingly by leaving their phone at home, putting it in a farraday bag, etc.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 15 points 1 day ago

It doesn't matter if there are IMSI catchers or not, they should be leaving their phones at home.

[-] Geodad@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Or use GrapheneOS in airplane mode.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 16 hours ago

That's probably best case scenario but I have one and left it at home last time.

[-] Geodad@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Someone needs to document the event. 🙂

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 15 hours ago

There's no shortage of professional photographers and videographers

[-] Geodad@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

And a camera makes you the prime target for a fascist force.

See IDF shooting journalists.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 14 hours ago

All the more reason...

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[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 57 points 1 day ago

It's been tested at actual protests FYI. It works.

Use your imagination what that means you can do when you find one.

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[-] hypna@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago

Fucking cool, and also remember to leave your phone at home, or at least on airplane mode.

[-] TheWhetherMan@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

In airplane mode and even while turned off, phones have been known to still transmit data via background services. Leaving it behind, or a Faraday bag are the only assured options I'm aware of

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[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago

Modern phones will still ping the Bluetooth low energy networks like Find My for Apple devices even when off or on airplane mode. That’s how things like AirTags work.

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[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

What is the correct hardware?

[-] MTZ@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago

Any of the 5 or 6 cheap wireless hotspots listed in the link in the article.

[-] spinning_disk_engineer@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 hours ago

Is there a good one for Canada in specific though? As far as I can tell the Orbic only works in the US, and as a result I'm not sure if I can trust the other devices, even if they're the same ITU region. Would the TP-Link work? The docs suggest it should work in the US as well as Europe.

[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 3 points 22 hours ago

Probably should have read the article hahahah. Thanks.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 15 hours ago

In your defense, it seems like just a link to a repository.

[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 3 points 15 hours ago

That's why I don't click it. But like. I could have. I have the power. Of click.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 12 hours ago

I've taken too many phishing tests. I have lost the power of clicking.

[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What if the cops have a trace buster buster?

[-] MTZ@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago

Then you would just wanna bring along your trace buster buster buster.

[-] nulluser@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Who are you calling buster, buster?

[-] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 3 points 16 hours ago

Who YOU gonna call? Trace Busters?

[-] Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

Hey, I'm not your buster, guy.

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[-] scops@reddthat.com 9 points 1 day ago

Always crazy seeing a The Big Hit reference in the wild

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