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[-] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 116 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

My dipshit contractor did something similar.

Me, before demo on a big remodel: "Hey, if you could get rid of these soffits, (on the first floor, with a lot of weight above them) that would be cool."

Them: " Yeah, after we get it open we'll take a look and let you know."

I swing by a couple days later and this is how they rerouted things that were in the soffits, without saying anything to me.

So anyway, I'm in litigation now.

[-] Xuderis@lemmy.world 144 points 5 days ago

This kills the structure.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 130 points 5 days ago

Wait…wait. Did he cut through the floor joists in order to inset the pipe?

[-] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 125 points 5 days ago

Yes. Yes he did

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 66 points 5 days ago

Why…why would he not just use u-brackets to attach the pipe to the joists??!

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 71 points 5 days ago

Steve don't know anything but he did it for love.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That divorce is going to be glorious.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

He's going to laugh last when she keeps the house

[-] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago

Pretty sure he'll just slice it down the middle and take his half.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago

Not only did he miss the easiest way to solve this problem, but he cut perfectly square notches that were twice as wide as the pipe. You need multiple tools to do that, and a LOT of quality time on your back in a crawlspace eating sawdust to do it.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

A circular saw and a hammer would do it. Just 2 cuts and a thwack per board.

If the cuts are too deep a sawzall and longish blade would work too but take longer.

If I somehow ended up owning this house I’d probably just screw some 1/8” steel straps across the bottoms of the joists and call it a day. The the bottoms of floor joists are in tension anyway.

[-] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Sawzall and a hammer works fine

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Surely there is more to this

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago

As complete dumbass I can almost assure you that the person who did this did it to the first one and then went in for a penny in for a pound so they kept going. I did this with my bathtubs faucet, problem with that was at least I didn't need the old one so taking a sawzaw to it didn't break anything else.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

For the vibes. Now he can show his guests how clean his crawlspace is.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 days ago

He didn’t even make sure his cuts lined up!!!!

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Me looking at his poor craftsmanship on top of his house deprecating dumb ass decision...

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[-] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 5 days ago

This kills the tenant!

[-] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 32 points 4 days ago

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

The text might be bait, but this seems like an awful lot of trouble for a joke. Someone probably did do this and someone took a picture to show it off.

[-] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 48 points 5 days ago

Physics will ultimately win.

[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 44 points 5 days ago

America, where houses are built out of wood and there's no such thing as insulation.

[-] twinnie@feddit.uk 41 points 5 days ago

I remember being a kid and watching a few films where people fall over and put holes in the walls; I was so confused. I didn’t understand how people could put holes in bricks using their arms and legs.

[-] sauerkrautsaul@lemmus.org 7 points 5 days ago

thats just drywall. its shit but a lot of cheap builds use it.

[-] r4venw@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 days ago

its shit but a lot of cheap builds use it.

Wait... What do you use to cover your (non stone) walls??? Is there some sort of beadboard or shiplap supremacy group I've never heard of?

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 days ago

yeah every place I lived in in Europe had brick walls for every wall

[-] Sirence@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago

Why would you have non stone walls?

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago

Because there are earthquakes where I live literally all the time.

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[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Wooden beams for the floors is even common in houses made of bricks though. I live in the Netherlands and brick houses that have been standing for hundreds of years have wooden floors and the foundation is even standing on wooden piles. Wood isn’t as shit of a building material as you think it is. There are even modern apartments in freezing Northern Europe that are made with cross laminated timber. https://www.dezeen.com/2015/09/23/puukuokka-oopeaa-tallest-wooden-apartment-block-finland-wins-finlandia-prize-for-architecture-2015/

The problem in American buildings isn’t that they are made of wood it’s that they do it cheaply. Stick framing is the most common way to build a house in the US. You can build a very solid house out of wood if you opt for timber framing. Like in Japan there are wooden temples that have been standing for more than a thousand years.

[-] Duranie@leminal.space 15 points 5 days ago

There's parts of the country where it doesn't regularly get cold enough for insulation to really matter.

That said, my house in the Chicago suburbs is over 140 years old and was definitely never insulated underneath. By the feel of the walls in the winter any insulation that was in there has probably all collapsed as well.

[-] errer@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Insulation in the floor is really much less important than walls/roof. Heat rises so if you wanna trap heat the ceiling is most important. And in the summer the basement is usually the coolest part of the house. Basically only matters if the floors being cold to the touch bothers you in the winter, and a very modest energy savings (likely never will recover the install cost).

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[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

But... Insulation also insulates in summer against heat?

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[-] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 42 points 5 days ago

It's entirely possible to do what they wanted, but there's really no point in a crawlspace like that.

You just have to cut no more than 1/3 the size of the joist, and stay at least 2" from the edge.

This would require a lot of planning and redoing all the plumbing, but it's possible.

Most plumbers would probably say "sure, I'll do that but it'll cost you" cause this job would be a super pain in the ass.