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VPN Comparison

After making a post about comparing VPN providers, I received a lot of requested feedback. I've implemented most of the ideas I received.

Providers

Notes

  • I'm human. I make mistakes. I made multiple mistakes in my last post, and there may be some here. I've tried my best.
  • Pricing is sometimes weird. For example, a 1 year plan for Private Internet Access is 37.19€ first year and then auto-renews annually at 46.73€. By the way, they misspelled "annually". AirVPN has a 3 day pricing plan. For the instances when pricing is weird, I did what I felt was best on a case-by-case basis.
  • Tor is not a VPN, but there are multiple apps that allow you to use it like a VPN. They've released an official Tor VPN app for Android, and there is a verified Flatpak called Carburetor which you can use to use Tor like a VPN on secureblue (Linux). It's not unreasonable to add this to the list.
  • Some projects use different licenses for different platforms. For example, NordVPN has an open source Linux client. However, to call NordVPN open source would be like calling a meat sandwich vegan because the bread is vegan.
  • The age of a VPN isn't a good indicator of how secure it is. There could be a trustworthy VPN that's been around for 10 years but uses insecure, outdated code, and a new VPN that's been around for 10 days but uses up-to-date, modern code.
  • Some VPNs, like Surfshark VPN, operate in multiple countries. Legality may vary.
  • All of the VPNs claim a "no log" policy, but there's some I trust more than others to actually uphold that.
  • Tor is special in the port forwarding category, because it depends on what you're using port forwarding for. In some cases, Tor doesn't need port forwarding.
  • Tor technically doesn't have a WireGuard profile, but you could (probably?) create one.

Takeaways

  • If you don't mind the speed cost, Tor is a really good option to protect your IP address.
  • If you're on a budget, NymVPN, Private Internet Access, and Surfshark VPN are generally the cheapest. If you're paying month-by-month, Mullvad VPN still can't be beat.
  • If you want VPNs that go out of their way to collect as little information as possible, IVPN, Mullvad VPN, and NymVPN don't require any personal information to use. And Tor, of course.

ODS file: https://files.catbox.moe/cly0o6.ods

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[-] beSyl@slrpnk.net 1 points 53 minutes ago* (last edited 53 minutes ago)

It is a bit sad and unexpected that AirVPN has not been audited...

[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Since you do not seem to list self-hosting options, e.g. WireGuard or OpenVPN, then IMHO it'd be good to at least have a line on each about what's the actual backend, e.g. does service X runs on WireGuard, OpenVPN, something else, something proprietary that has been audited by 3rd party if so whom and when.

Edit: suggested self-hosting (but not at home) WireGuard in the previous thread https://lemmy.ml/post/37270537/21536054

[-] sadness_nexus@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago

From what I know, the only free VPN worth using is Proton because they don't keep logs on their free tier either.

[-] marcie@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

Maybe a field for number of servers currently?

[-] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 3 points 13 hours ago

Mullvad also ran some pretty quirky ads on our public transit. I hadn't been that familiar with them, but it did heighten my awareness, and they seem pretty fine.

[-] rirus@feddit.org 30 points 22 hours ago

PIA isnt independent, its by a Israeli spyware company, that owns multiple VPN Review sites and VPN services . Remove it from the list.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 21 points 20 hours ago

No, don't rrmove it from the list. Make a note acknowledging the issue so others see it

[-] BlueRhinos@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 20 hours ago
[-] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 16 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Yes. The owner/developer is Kape technologies, an Israeli spyware/adware company.

To quote from cnet

For maximum privacy, I recommend VPN providers with a jurisdiction outside of Five Eyes and other international intelligence-sharing agreements -- that is, one headquartered outside of the US, UK, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. So it initially seems like a positive sign that, while CyberGhost has offices in Germany, it's headquartered in Romania. German entrepreneur Robert Knapp says he founded the $114,000 startup on the back of low-wage Bucharest labor before flipping it for $10.5 million in 2017.

The issue is who he sold it to -- the notorious creator of some pernicious data-huffing ad-ware, Crossrider. The UK-based company was cofounded by an ex-Israeli surveillance agent and a billionaire previously convicted of insider trading who was later named in the Panama Papers. It produced software which previously allowed third-party developers to hijack users' browsers via malware injection, redirect traffic to advertisers and slurp up private data.

Crossrider was so successful it ultimately drew the gaze of Google and UC Berkeley, which identified the company in a damning 2015 study. (You can read the Web Archive version of that document.)

This practice, commonly called traffic manipulation, is condemned web-wide. And the only difference between it and one of the oldest forms of cyberattack, called man-in-the-middle (MitM), is that you clicked "agree" on the terms and conditions.

Whether or not PIA or ExpressVPN or the other providers owned by Kape fulfill this data scraping and ad-serving pipeline in my mind is irrelevant. Choosing to do business with them rewards bad actors when there are other VPN sellers who don't have such a tainted lineage.

[-] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 12 points 22 hours ago

For anyone who considers getting the tor vpn android app "Tor VPN is beta software. Do not rely on it for anything other than testing. It may leak information and should not be relied on for anything sensitive" (it is a disclaimer from their website)

Thank you for adding the created date column and making sweden green

[-] Edie@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

C tor/little-t-tor/etc. is licensed under the "3-clause BSD" license

Tor technically doesn’t have a WireGuard profile, but you could (probably?) create one

I dont know a lot about wireguard, but of the cuff answer would be no.

[-] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 day ago

Why isn't F-Droid included in the Availability section?

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[-] online@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago

Also of note, some providers have data caps. I haven't looked at all providers, merely Nymvpn as I was interested. Turns out they have a 2TB/month cap. Might not be an issue for some, but might be for others.

[-] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I think it's worth noting NYMVpn uses a quite advanced mixnet for security which is different from other VPNs and theoretically more secure than even TOR. I say theoretically because it hasn't yet been proven with large scale use.

https://nym.com/blog/what-is-a-mixnet

[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Good work. Might be valuable to add a "allows port forwarding" row.

Edit: whoops, I'm a silly willy. It's right in front of me! My bad.

[-] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

One thing you may want to update - listing Tor's logging policy as "No Logs" is a bit misleading, that's really more of a voluntary recommendation for individual Tor exit relay operators.

Tor exit relay operators absolutely can store logs of outgoing connections if they choose to. And technically they could even snoop on non-secure traffic if they choose, there's a reason you should be using HTTPS if you're going to use Tor for clearnet browsing.

Of course most Tor exit relay operators aren't going to do these things but it's all voluntary, seems incorrect to claim all exit relay operators follow no log principles.

EDIT: Also AFAIK you can't forward a port from the clearnet through a Tor exit relay's public IP address back to your own Tor client, Tor doesn't do port forwarding like that. It's definitely not needed to run Tor Browser (and Tor VPN I think) but that isn't needed for any of the other VPNs either, a bit confusing how you listed that one.

[-] prole 2 points 21 hours ago

Some people will even tell you that all Tor exit nodes are compromised

[-] Undertaker@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago

Availability: Direct download via Repo or developer web page is missing. Google shouldn't be a plus. The provided explanation in the last thread was invalid

[-] upstroke4448@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago
[-] brb@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

If you make 2.1 you could add some info on the port forwarding because there are massive differences on it between providers. Like PIA gives you a single random port that changes each time you reconnect, while AirVPN gives you 5 static ports you can configure yourself.

[-] ki9@lemmy.gf4.pw 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I can vouch for cryptostorm. Offers port forwarding and good speed. Haven't been with them long but they seem legit.

[-] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

I'd love to see them audited.

Back when they were in the US, they closed shop and moved to Iceland to avoid turning over data for a subpoena.

That's both admirable and an admission that they had longs to turn over.

But that they generate accounts on the fly like the best? Is promising in context.

[-] veeesix@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago

I just checked how much I was paying for my Nord subscription and now I’m convinced that Proton Unlimited (discounted) is a great value. Gonna switch next year when my subscription ends. Thanks for putting this together!

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 24 points 1 day ago

PIA does not have WireGuard configs available. To get those, you have to use third-party tools to capture and generate the necessary info. Otherwise, you have to use their client, or else no WireGuard.

Users have been asking for years (since 2018, I think), and they've never provided them.

[-] Chulk@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 day ago

PIA was also purchased by the Israeli company, Kape Technologies, which is tied to Unit 8200. If your concern is privacy, I would recommend do against it.

The very first CEO of Crossrider, Koby Menachemi, happened to be once a part of Unit 8200 which is an Israeli Intelligence Unit in their military and has also been dubbed as “Israel’s NSA “.

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[-] rirus@feddit.org 2 points 21 hours ago

Can someone help with torrenting over windscribe?

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 day ago

I've been using one of these since forever and it just works. Should I look at the others?

I don't want this to be a "I use x and its the best" type comment so I won't say which one.

I only use wireguard and wouldn't touch openvpn just because it seems so complex in comparisson.

The price is fine, the speed is fine, wireguard makes it ubiquitous, never had a problem with reliability.

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[-] redhilsha@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

Proton is essentially the best free VPN huh.

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[-] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Proton and Mullvad VPN appear to win the battle of the charts for privacy & security.

[-] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Except Mullvad has been proven a trustworthy service, while Proton has already a couple alarming things in their record.

[-] Lemmchen@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
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[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

This is a really great resource thank you!

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