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[-] Siegehammer85@lemmy.world 163 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Bullets also open the blood-brain barrier and allow toxins into the brain, so are they going to be banned? 🧐

[-] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago

No. These actually do it mechanically, so it's fine.

WiFi obly does it in RFK's fantasies, so that's why banning it's fine.

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[-] don@lemmy.ca 128 points 4 days ago

Brought to you courtesy of the conservative voters and the apathetic voters, well known exemplars of mental acuity.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 72 points 4 days ago

Don't forget the heroes who voted for Jill Stein. Because if you didn't then you lOvE gEnOcIdE

[-] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 days ago

"The Democrats didn't fail us. We failed them"

[-] School_Lunch@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago
[-] lutehero@piefed.social 14 points 4 days ago

I think this is the best take.

The national Democratic party is a collection of thousands of smaller local Democratic parties. We've abandoned the local parties, allowing the corporate rot to take over the national party. We don't need a new 3rd party, we need to take control of the local Democratic parties which already have the infrastructure in place to fund raise and run campaigns.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 10 points 4 days ago

Good luck if you get three leftists in a room together they have six different ideas on how to get things done and will argue to the death about the best way instead of doing anything.

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[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 20 points 4 days ago

Yeah here in Ohio we had multiple state referendums where things like abortion and recreational marijuana were overwhelming approved by the voters. So the Democrats proceeded to say nothing anout how they were going to protect those objectively popular issues and instead ran a bunch of ads about how they are going to work with Trump on securing the border, then were shocked that they all got BTFOed in November.

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[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 98 points 4 days ago

One of the key characteristics of fascism is machismo: a kind of hyper masculinity, and one of the characteristics of machismo is seemingly that a man is right simply by stating something confidently enough. It's not about facts, evidence, or rigorous testing, it's just about being the right kind of man and having the right kind of masculine energy. That's why fascists are anti-intellectual, because intellectuals and academics understand that research, testing, and experimentation determine truth, not manly vibes.

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[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Feels like empire is being run by boomer email forwards.

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 days ago

How can the country whose engineering skill and expertise managed to rocket their manufacturing economy into the stratosphere post WWI and into WWII, devolve into idiots like RFK Jr?

His uncle wanted to put people on the moon for fucks sake. What a terrible shame on his family to have this guy be one of the last representatives of the Kennedy name.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 days ago

Hi, I would like to introduce you to Rupert Murdoch, the ruler of Newscorp and now Fox.

He tried to make sure most of his children wouldn't have any voting rights because they were too moderate compared to himself and his favorite son..

Fox is now its own separate entity, but it's still the Murdoch family on the board of it.

TL;DR: The reason the anglosphere, primarily the US, is so fucked, is actually an ozzie. Though he's been an American citizen for some 4 decades now.

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[-] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

What a terrible shame on his family to have this guy be one of the last representatives of the Kennedy name.

Eh, agreed on some level, though it's actually also good proof of karma, which we all need. Shouldn't have lobotomized Rosemary, you sick fucks.

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

That's very true. I honestly didn't mean to minimize the Kennedy scandals. I should have chosen my words better.

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[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 48 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You know, I can get behind the sentiment of MAHA. Fast foods literally killing people, and worse, making thier lives miserable and expensive. Healthy skepticism of big pharma is, err, healthy. Bring that on.

Research into cell phone health issues is fine. The physics suggest it shouldn't be an issue, but still, data is good.


...But can we please take the quack medicine out?

[-] turmacar@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

Agreed that there's no such thing as "wasted" research. But there is no medicine to take out of the quack medicine. They're quacks because they refuse to accept results of research on emotional grounds and just keep squawking the same things their minds are made up about.

Focusing on problems that are fairly settled now because a 70+ year old heard they were mysterious and a problem at the age of six is so inefficient as to be regressive. Yes we should continue to research... everything but we should do so on the foundation of all the research available in , not on vaguely remembered tabloid scares from decades ago.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 40 points 4 days ago

Wow. This is so utterly absurd, even for politican.

But if he can't explain it, maybe he should bring in an expert who can. I can't wait to hear that explanation. I'll have the popcorn ready.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 40 points 4 days ago

Well, this arrow, here, is WiFi.

And this line is the blood—brain, barrier.

When the arrow comes to the line, it goes through it. See?

And other things can go through the hole. Like woke.

I will not be taking questions. Thank you.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Yep. Exactly the best such an "expert" could provide. When did he lose his license to practice, again?

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

No Questions!

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 45 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Roughly accurate transcription it seems:

Text of above[01:11:01] well, wi-fi radiation is, does all kinds of bad things, including causing cancer.

[01:11:10] wi-fi radiation causes cancer.

[01:11:11] yeah, from your cell phone. i mean, there's cell phone tumor, tumors, you know, that, i mean,

[01:11:15] i'm representing hundreds of people who have cell phone tumors behind the ear. it's always on the

[01:11:20] ear that you favor with your cell phone. and, you know, we have the science. so if anybody

[01:11:27] lets us in front of a jury, it will be over. you know, we-

[01:11:30] so what is the number? because a lot of people use cell phones.

[01:11:32] there's a lot of people with it. they're glioblastomas. that's the kind of cancers that

[01:11:37] they get. but cancer's not the worst thing. they also, you know, it opens up,

[01:11:42] wi-fi radiation opens up your blood-brain barrier. and so all these toxins that are in your body can

[01:11:49] now go into your brain.

[01:11:50] how does wi-fi radiation open up your blood-brain barrier?

[01:11:54] yeah, now you're going beyond my expertise. but what-

[01:12:00] there are, there are, i'm going to use a number here and you're going to think it's hyperbole,

[01:12:05] but it's not. there are tens of thousands of studies that show the horrendous danger of wi-fi

[01:12:12] radiation. and-

[01:12:15] so this is wi-fi that's in this room?

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 4 days ago

Would love to see these tens of thousands of studies that show the danger

[-] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

Now you've gone beyond my university's subscriptions.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago

are those tens of thousands of studies in the room with us right now?

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[-] Zier@fedia.io 51 points 4 days ago

Wait until he finds out about the radiation from the Sun. Get him a mirror.

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[-] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

He's saying this so people think his ideas are crazy and won't believe it when the feds and intelligence organizations actually manipulate society with technology.

That's his role in the administration. Its all a long con preparing for the social control coming next.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

I think that you're actually putting too much stock into these people. They are just nasty people being nasty as far as they can. Any planning is superficial.

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago

From some of them? Yes. From all of them? No. Steven Miller, Steve Bannon, maybe Dr Oz, almost certainly Linda McMahon, have plans

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[-] dumbass@aussie.zone 29 points 4 days ago

If you look at how RFK jr is sitting, he's leaning back and to the left.

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[-] elbiter@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

This is what people voted for.

Enough people to put it there.

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago

This guy probably believes his blood is blue because he's descended from royalty or some shit.

Nah, he'd think his blood was blue not because of the royalty thing but because blue is actually the natural color of blood and it's just built up toxins that turn it red. That's why the royals had blue blood, not because they were just inherently better, but because they took better care of themselves unlike the peasantry.

[-] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Don't mention blood near him, we'll have to listen to a lecture on RH negative blood and lizard people.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 days ago

Ban wifi. I dare you. Do it.

[-] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

This but unironically. Flash drives and patience. We can function just fine.

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[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 16 points 4 days ago

There was debate into the late 90's in the scientific community if hiv caused aids due to the rigorous nature of Koch's Postulates. Even then it was just recognized not all the criteria were met. Later they proved it with a monkey variant. HIV causing aids. Not the crazy wifi thing.

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[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

Us government: "Let's hire that guy to be in charge of health care."

[-] prole 19 points 4 days ago

Is this how kids become mitochondrially challenged?

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[-] altasshet@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 days ago

That would be a really funny joke in a parallel universe.

[-] troed@fedia.io 11 points 4 days ago

Not sure if everyone who comments have actually read anything on the topic. While I'm not worried myself due to the sheer number of null studies that exist, he's not just dreaming this up. There are plenty of peer-reviewed scientific studies that claim to show that there indeed is such an effect. One selected randomly below:

As a result, it was found that there was no statistically significant difference in the BBB of rabbits exposed to 1800 MHz radiation, whereas there was a statistically significant difference at a 95% confidence level in the BBB of rabbits exposed to 2100 MHz radiation

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11517-024-03238-1

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 64 points 4 days ago

Oh please..."at a distance of 13cm" from a high powered transmitter. They saw a statistical difference of a minute effect, in a small animal. And if you actually look at the data, they did the statistics incorrectly.

There are researchers at U of Toronto using microwaves to break down the blood brain barrier to get cancer drugs into the brain. It's not easy, and what they have shown is that even when they can do it, the barrier can repeatedly repair itself.

People who leave scientific links on the internet without understanding them are just as bad as RFK Jr.

[-] troed@fedia.io 12 points 4 days ago

What in my post makes you believe I don't understand the posted study? Did you not see the "While I'm not worried myself due to the sheer number of null studies that exist" part?

I was a developer and researcher at a mobile phone manufacturer for 15 years. We kept well up to date on this topic.

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[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 40 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Just pointing out two things that many people don't know about statistics and that I think are helpful when judging a larger body of scientific literature and listening to non-experts like RFK Jr.

First, the term "statistically significant" does not mean "big" or "meaningful". It means "unlikely due to chance", where "unlikely" is defined by the researcher, typically as a low-ish threshold like "with a probability of at most 5%". This is also the threshold that researchers use when they compute a 95% confidence interval, like in the paragraph quoted above.

Second, with a 5% threshold, studies investigating the same phenomenon (like the effect of radio waves on rabbits) have a 5% chance to find a statistically significant effect even if that effect does not exist. As a consequence, scientists don't regard it as proof of a phenomenon, when one study (or even several) out of a large number of studies finds something to be statistically significant. Instead, they require that this finding is replicated in independent replication studies (ideally ones that were conducted with a pre-registered protocol and a much larger sample).

Relevant xkcd, because of course there is one:

Image source: xkcd (no. 882)

[-] troed@fedia.io 10 points 4 days ago

Exactly. I got the impression from the posts that were here when I made mine that people had never even heard of this being something that has been "debated" in the scientific community but just some random idea RFK Jr had himself.

IIRC there was real worry in the late 90s due to the thermal effect mobiles back then had, which in the 00s transformed into electromagnetism and the blood-brain barrier instead. The thing that really gives away the non-scientific backing for those still trying to push this is that they keep trying to blame newer versions of the mobile networks "4G bad vs 3G!" "5G bad vs 4G!" when in reality every newer network standard has less penetrating energy and also, due to towers being much closer spaced, less transmitting energy overall from the phone.

NMT back in the 80s however? I'd probably be somewhat cautious today tbh.

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