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[-] princessnorah 3 points 12 hours ago

The Emmy, Peabody, and GLAAD Media Award-winning show is also considered the first Cartoon Network series to have been created by a woman, though Sugar, who is bisexual and uses both she/her and they/them pronouns, has since said that she does not identify as a woman.

Ah yes, the bisexual gender.

[-] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 day ago

Fair Warning: Long gushing rant ahead.

Steven Universe is an amazing show. The fact that there was any push back for LGBTQ+ representation is pathetic and sad, and it's sadly far worse now, but I truly believe things will get better.

I'll just say that as a cis hetero man, I still felt seen by Steven Universe. The main character, Steven, has an incredibly healthy emotional intelligence rarely seen in full grown men IRL, let alone in fiction.

Usually in fiction, men's isolation and rejection of their emotions are often portrayed in a positive or at least as a "beautifully" tragic necessity. But Steven Universe shows how nuanced and complex male emotions can be, and it even foregoes the concept of gender identity when they pursue the nonbinary fusion character Stephanie (amongst many other fusion characters that are featured throughout the show). It really is a great exploration of gender, the throwing away of gender norms, and how freeing it can be when you just don't even consider being judged about that because the world you live in is just that lovingly accepting. And there is so much more explored in the show that doesn't even have to do with any of that.

Again, I'm a cisgender heterosexual man, I am comfortable portraying myself as such. But I recognize how limiting and illusory "being a man" is at times.

All gender norms, and by extension, cultural norms, are ultimately performative.

They can make you feel included, excluded, can be uplifting, or constricting. They can also be dangerous when enforced on others against their will, and it's limiting when you don't question it, deviate from it, or change because of fear of going against it.

Steven Universe, and other shows like The Owl House and Dead End aren't the brainwashing shows the far right piece of shit fascists want you to believe they are. They are shows that give us a glimpse into worlds where we are free to be who we want to be and love who we want to love. Anyone who thinks that's a bad thing or naive is a coward or a bigot, and either way they lack the imagination to believe a better inclusive world is not only possible, but inevitable.

They are wrong. We are better than that, and I have an unwavering faith we can and will bring such a world to fruition.

[-] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Hell yea, agree with everything, except for Dead End.

Dead End took the inclusivity of SU and TOH and just sorta ham fisted it. Where SU and TOH have queer characters they make it very normalized, those characters just exist in the world and they are accepted. Like, Luz/Amity are fully great characters in addition to being bi/lesbian. not just because theyre bi/lesbians.

Dead End makes their being "insert virtue signal" the whole character and personality. Every character feels like a 1D token with exactly one trait. The trans one, the nonbinary one, etc etc the only character that acts like a person is Norma. Seriously, the "representation" in DE is bad. Like insulting caricatures bad.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago

Of that same era (just a year before):

https://www.npr.org/2012/04/13/150566153/airbender-creators-reclaim-their-world-in-korra

As for Korra herself, the show's creators imagined their headstrong heroine as the kind of girl you might meet on a snowboard. "She's muscular, and we like that," Konietzko says. "It's definitely better than being a waif about to pass out. I know, I look like a waif — who am I to judge?"

Some Nickelodeon executives were worried, says Konietzko, about backing an animated action show with a female lead character. Conventional TV wisdom has it that girls will watch shows about boys, but boys won't watch shows about girls.

During test screenings, though, boys said they didn't care that Korra was a girl. They just said she was awesome.

Not to speak of the fight over two girls holding hands in one scene.

[-] FreeAZ@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago

I typically think shipping is annoying and cringey. The only time I've ever shipped characters was Korra and Asami, I "knew" it would never happen though. I was so fucking happy when the finale finally ended.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, what a ship.

It was unresolved though, and IMO the comics did not handle it super well. The fics though.

[-] degen@midwest.social 14 points 1 day ago

Odd that this is an article now? Everyone was talking about it back then with hiatuses and all.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Its a pretty beloved show in the LGBTQ community (especially online), so I can see why it's still discussed.

[-] degen@midwest.social 15 points 1 day ago

Very true. I mean it is a... gem of a show

[-] nixon@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

👏 Bravo 👏

…I couldn’t let your comment go unnoticed.

[-] degen@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago

Worst part is it wasn't even intended. I rolled my eyes and added the ellipsis anyway.

[-] SnotFlickerman 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Meanwhile, on Adult Swim...

"What can we do to pander exclusively to all the straight young men?"

I guess it's just not all that shocking that they have been incredibly hostile to LGBTQ+ representation.

[-] dariusj18@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It wasn't an adult swim show though.

[-] SnotFlickerman 1 points 1 day ago

It's the same company, the same network, the same executives...

[-] dariusj18@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

But adult swim is specifically geared towards a mature audience and Steven Universe is just TV-PG. Any network will be more limited in the boundaries they will push with more mass market shows. Even the correct decision, I am sure, did negatively affect their bottom line in the short term.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

The mature themes of “love, acceptance, and support?”

[-] GooseGang@beehaw.org 3 points 1 day ago

The show wouldn’t be complete without them!! 💞

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