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[-] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Fining is a super common technique in brewing/winemaking. I wonder how they chose that specific fining agent (other than that it's vegan, though there are plenty of other vegan options).

One thing that would make this technique better is decanting before adding the fining agent.

E.g.,

  • combine coffee/water
  • let sit 1 hour (or however long it takes for extraction to level off) -pour off supernatant -add fining agent
  • wait till tomorrow
  • decant again

Fining agents bind with stuff in the coffee, and by adding it at the start, you'll probably lose a bunch of it to larger coffee particles that would have fallen out of solution easily.

Finings work in 2 steps: coagulation and flocculation. First stuff bunches up into larger particles due to electrostatic charge (coagulation), and then it falls to the bottom (flocculation). The flocculation part works better the colder you get it.

[-] fdrc_lm 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The only thing I didn’t get: after making the ground precipitate to the bottom naturally, one could just filter it in a V60 without any issue. Normally I make cold brew with coarse ground coffee. Then I separate it in two steps, firstly pouring water in a caraffe leaving most of the grounds behind and then filtering the much cleaner liquid in the V60, which then takes much less time (but yeah more than filtering hot coffee) With his method the liquid poured is even cleaner even without additives, so I guess they’re not necessary at all

[-] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

With a v60 (and many other types of filtering), the filter itself doesn't do the majority of the filtration. The bed of coffee grounds basically act as a filter for themselves (obviously held up by the filter papers at the bottom). It's why if you pour aggressively or stir the grounds as it's filtering, it will draw down way slower; fine grounds that would otherwise be trapped by courser grounds end up lodging themselves in the pores of the filter paper.

I've done the same process you are suggesting (and the same process but for filtering milk punch), and it was slower than filtering with everything. I think technically, the fastest might be decanting the supernatant into a separate container, spooning the grounds into a v60, and then pouring the supernatant through it gently.

[-] fdrc_lm 2 points 20 hours ago

That seems interesting I should try that I noticed that the filtering speed depends heavily on the type of coffee, for example I prepared cold brew with a decaf coffee which always took much more time to filter. Maybe it produced more fine ground but I don’t know for sure

[-] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Yeah, some beans just seem to give more fines. Makes sense that the process used to decaffeinate beans could make them more brittle.

[-] fdrc_lm 1 points 1 day ago

I was just about to post this here as well

[-] hopesdead@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago

I am definitely going to try this recipe. The concentrate that a Toddy recipe makes does not sit well with my stomach (yes this is after the 1:1 dilution). I guess I’d have to ditch the Toddy unless I try to brew within the constraints of it’s size.

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